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Title: Pat Martin is leaving school.
Post by: Inspector Vol on August 29, 2011, 05:54:42 EDT
4* db, freshman. Don't know why.


Title: Re: Pat Martin is leaving school.
Post by: 101stDad on August 29, 2011, 06:22:51 EDT
http://www.govolsxtra.com/news/2011/aug/29/freshman-safety-pat-martin-will-transfer/?partner=RSS

Rumor I heard is that he is homesick and will become a Rat Bastard.  He will sit this year as a redshirt, and then play next fall. 


Title: Re: Pat Martin is leaving school.
Post by: murfvol on August 29, 2011, 07:12:20 EDT
Does that affect Tino Thomas? Is it too late for him to be full-time.


Title: Re: Pat Martin is leaving school.
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on August 29, 2011, 07:17:36 EDT
Sucks.  The kid had petential.  On the bright side, we were facing a big numbers crunch with the class of 2012, and this helps with that.


Title: Re: Pat Martin is leaving school.
Post by: 101stDad on August 29, 2011, 07:18:09 EDT
Does that affect Tino Thomas? Is it too late for him to be full-time.

I believe that Martin will have to count against this year since classes have already started, so Thomas is likely still a grayshirt.  Martin will also be an APR hit.  


Title: Re: Pat Martin is leaving school.
Post by: Clockwork Orange on August 29, 2011, 07:40:57 EDT
 Martin will also be an APR hit.  

I hope that isn't the case. If he actually started the process by last Friday he could drop all of his classes with no repercussions from an academic standpoint . . . I wonder if that would affect him from an APR point of view or if his simple enrollment puts us on the hook for him.

Then again if he didn't start dropping classes before today, he's on the hook for them academically and I'm sure that puts us on the hook for him.


Title: Re: Pat Martin is leaving school.
Post by: 101stDad on August 29, 2011, 07:43:26 EDT
I hope that isn't the case. If he actually started the process by last Friday he could drop all of his classes with no repercussions from an academic standpoint . . . I wonder if that would affect him from an APR point of view or if his simple enrollment puts us on the hook for him.

Then again if he didn't start dropping classes before today, he's on the hook for them academically and I'm sure that puts us on the hook for him.

I think the rub may be that he was here for at least one of the summer sessions.  Since the NCAA allows incoming freshmen to go on scholarship in the summer now, does that not start the scholarship process then? 

I'm not 100% positive, but I believe it does, which means it would most likely be an APR hit. 


Title: Re: Pat Martin is leaving school.
Post by: Clockwork Orange on August 29, 2011, 07:57:17 EDT
I think the rub may be that he was here for at least one of the summer sessions.  Since the NCAA allows incoming freshmen to go on scholarship in the summer now, does that not start the scholarship process then? 

I'm not 100% positive, but I believe it does, which means it would most likely be an APR hit. 

Yep, I'm sure you're right. I didn't think about him enrolling in summer classes.


Title: Re: Pat Martin is leaving school.
Post by: ReVOLver on August 29, 2011, 08:03:13 EDT
Sucks.  The kid had petential.  On the bright side, we were facing a big numbers crunch with the class of 2012, and this helps with that.

The behind the scenes talk even back when he was a commit was that he was overrated by Rivals and lacked the speed and ball skills to play S at the SEC level. I think they hoped he would grow into a LB.

It sucks to lose anybody at this point though. We don't need the attrition. He does however open up a scholly for 2012 as you say.


Title: Re: Pat Martin is leaving school.
Post by: Volznut on August 29, 2011, 08:08:14 EDT
In January Tino Thomas will be back counted in the 2011 class now, and open up a 2012 scholly.