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Title: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: Volznut on December 01, 2011, 04:51:42 EST
retiring apparently. Not a rumor. (VQ mods now confirming)



Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on December 01, 2011, 04:54:27 EST
Well that sucks. :frown:


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: ReVOLver on December 01, 2011, 04:58:14 EST
More fuel to the Da'Rick rumors and how Baggett is leaving because Dooley favored Da'Rick and LET HIM disrespect Baggett.


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: ReVOLver on December 01, 2011, 04:59:22 EST
Per Fortenberry, it will be termed a retirement but he will be compensated.

If he is being compensated, he ain't retiring.  :dunno:


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: Volznut on December 01, 2011, 05:02:40 EST
Per Fortenberry, it will be termed a retirement but he will be compensated.

If he is being compensated, he ain't retiring.  :dunno:

That's being fired....but why? Unless it's because we couldn't get another WR to step up? CDD also always commented on poor WR blocking.



Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: BigOrange Maniac on December 01, 2011, 05:04:46 EST
I'm not disappointed. Well...unless he truly is retiring because Dooley is cultivating a culture that allows the inmates to run the asylum. That would be disturbing.


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: ReVOLver on December 01, 2011, 05:05:00 EST
That's being fired....but why? Unless it's because we couldn't get another WR to step up? CDD also always commented on poor WR blocking.



I think we have to look past the field and wonder about staff chemistry and the rumors of players (Rogers and Bray) being allowed to run the show.


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: Volznut on December 01, 2011, 05:07:49 EST
I think we have to look past the field and wonder about staff chemistry and the rumors of players (Rogers and Bray) being allowed to run the show.

Could certainly be part of it. I suppose it will eventually come out.



Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: ReVOLver on December 01, 2011, 05:08:52 EST
Rumors, rumors, rumors...

Lance Thompson is heavily involved in the head coaching search at UAB.

Eric Russell is close to Mike Leach who just got hired at WSU.

Heistand and Joseph are on the chopping block.

It sure sounds like a shizzlety situation... of course we had a shizzlety football team.


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: ReVOLver on December 01, 2011, 05:12:27 EST
Fortenberry's quick article on it specifically mentions Tee Martin as a possible replacement.


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: Screaming Eagle Dad on December 01, 2011, 05:17:13 EST
Fortenberry's quick article on it specifically mentions Tee Martin as a possible replacement.

If I was Tee Martin I'd be looking for the fastest way out of UK. Can He recruit? Jury is out. Can he coach? Jury isout on that one too as far as I can tell.


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: Volznut on December 01, 2011, 05:22:51 EST
Fortenberry's quick article on it specifically mentions Tee Martin as a possible replacement.

I like Tee, but I don't know that he has done much yet to prove he is a good WR coach.



Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: BigOrange Maniac on December 01, 2011, 05:26:42 EST
Frankly, the only coaches who I would be really upset if Tennessee lost are Thompson, Sirmon and Wilcox.

Of course, if we're going to go after unprovens to replace some of these other guys -- like Chaney, Joseph and Baggett -- I would just as soon they stay.


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: ReVOLver on December 01, 2011, 05:27:54 EST
Just read on FeelsLike98.com that Baggett's retirement is because his wife hates Knoxville and if there is any Da'Rick drama, that is secondary and just helped it along. This sounds plausible. However I don't like the amount of buzz I am hearing about an exodus of coaches. One coach is one thing. 6 is rats leaving a sinking ship. Our recruiting would be destroyed. In that case there is little point in keeping the head coach.


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: ReVOLver on December 01, 2011, 05:39:05 EST
Basilio stoking the Wilcox fires with a tweet that could mean everything or could mean nothing...

TonyBasilio Tony Basilio
I hear Wilcox is meeting with some of his players today. Will post update later today when I get it. #Vols


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: VinnieVOL on December 01, 2011, 05:45:00 EST
If Wilcox, Sirmon, or Thompson leave I will be in "throw up my hands" mode.  Otherwise, meh.


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: BigOrange Maniac on December 01, 2011, 06:00:31 EST
Da'Rick Rogers on Twitter:

"no coach like cb .. ima miss my dawg"


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: VinnieVOL on December 01, 2011, 06:17:35 EST
As an East Tennessean, I don't care fore the wording of that tweet.

Grits.


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: SmokeyJoe on December 01, 2011, 06:39:42 EST
As an East Tennessean, I don't care fore the wording of that tweet.

Grits.

 :dielaughing:


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: Volznut on December 01, 2011, 06:44:16 EST
As an East Tennessean, I don't care fore the wording of that tweet.

Grits.

Touche'   :bowrofl:



Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: BigOrange Maniac on December 01, 2011, 06:44:43 EST
And Jayson Swain responds  :crazy:

"Stop retweeting that insincere BS please. Thank you."


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: Volznut on December 01, 2011, 06:45:05 EST
Just read on FeelsLike98.com that Baggett's retirement is because his wife hates Knoxville and if there is any Da'Rick drama, that is secondary and just helped it along. This sounds plausible. However I don't like the amount of buzz I am hearing about an exodus of coaches. One coach is one thing. 6 is rats leaving a sinking ship. Our recruiting would be destroyed. In that case there is little point in keeping the head coach.

6?  Haven't heard that many. That would be disaster



Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: VinnieVOL on December 01, 2011, 06:51:11 EST
Swain needs to stfizzleu.


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: BigOrange Maniac on December 01, 2011, 06:53:31 EST
In terms of fan support, Dooley hiring Tee would be the best move he's made since he's been here.


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: Volznut on December 01, 2011, 07:02:01 EST
In terms of fan support, Dooley hiring Tee would be the best move he's made since he's been here.

I don't know if he'd be the best in terms of WR performance though. He has very little experience as a WR coach, and we don't need to hire him just because he is a VFL.


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: BigOrange Maniac on December 01, 2011, 07:04:35 EST
I don't know if he'd be the best in terms of WR performance though. He has very little experience as a WR coach, and we don't need to hire him just because he is a VFL.

I agree. I'm actually opposed to bringing back Martin to coach WRs. I would love to see him as QB coach if Hinshaw doesn't pan out.

But there's no denying that he's the guy an overwhelming majority of UT fans want and Dooley would earn himself a lot of fan favors by making the hire.

He might want to watch Tee's little clip from after the UK-UF game first, though...  :laugh:  http://sportsbybrooks.com/honest-tee-i-dunno-i-never-played-the-position-29860


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: Volznut on December 01, 2011, 07:05:25 EST
I agree. I'm actually opposed to bringing back Martin to coach WRs. I would love to see him as QB coach if Hinshaw doesn't pan out.

But there's no denying that he's the guy an overwhelming majority of UT fans want and Dooley would earn himself a lot of fan favors by making the hire.

He might want to watch Tee's little clip from after the UK-UF game first, though...  :laugh:  http://sportsbybrooks.com/honest-tee-i-dunno-i-never-played-the-position-29860


yeah I have seen that comment.  :eek:


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: ReVOLver on December 01, 2011, 07:28:41 EST
6?  Haven't heard that many. That would be disaster



Constant rumors about Wilcox leaving to join Chris Petersen at UCLA if Petersen goes. If Wilcox goes, Sirmon is going to go.

I posted earlier about the rumors I've read about Lance Thompson being a prime candidate to be the next HC at UAB, about Eric Russell following Mike Leach, and about Joseph and Heistand being on the block.

By my count all those guys plus Baggett make 7.


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: BigOrange Maniac on December 01, 2011, 07:31:38 EST
Constant rumors about Wilcox leaving to join Chris Petersen at UCLA if Petersen goes. If Wilcox goes, Sirmon is going to go.

I posted earlier about the rumors I've read about Lance Thompson being a prime candidate to be the next HC at UAB, about Eric Russell following Mike Leach, and about Joseph and Heistand being on the block.

By my count all those guys plus Baggett make 7.


Meanwhile, we pause to consider the possibility that freakin' UCLA can land a highly-sought-after coach and Tennessee cannot...

I'm not too concerned about Russell or Joseph...and obviously I'd like to see Hiestand fired. Losing that many coaches would be a setback for recruiting, obviously. As good as I think Thompson is at what he does as recruiter/position coach, I can't see UAB making a serious push for him as a head coach.


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: ReVOLver on December 01, 2011, 07:37:57 EST
Meanwhile, we pause to consider the possibility that freakin' UCLA can land a highly-sought-after coach and Tennessee cannot...

I'm not too concerned about Russell or Joseph...and obviously I'd like to see Hiestand fired. Losing that many coaches would be a setback for recruiting, obviously. As good as I think Thompson is at what he does as recruiter/position coach, I can't see UAB making a serious push for him as a head coach.

I wouldn't be offended at all if Petersen went to UCLA. He's a west coast guy who wants to stay on the west coast. That's why he hasn't taken any of the big jobs that have been open back east.

The Lance Thompson being a candidate at UAB is the only verified thing I have posted. The rumor part of it is that he's going to be offered the job. But Hubbs said the other day that Thompson was in the mix there.


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: Jedi Master on December 01, 2011, 07:41:59 EST
Come to UGA, Cordarrelle Patterson!   :thumbup:

Go Dawgs!


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: ReVOLver on December 01, 2011, 07:44:48 EST
Come to UGA, Cordarrelle Patterson!   :thumbup:

Go Dawgs!


He was going to go to UGa before Baggett left is what I've been reading the last couple of days. He is a great player.


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: ReVOLver on December 01, 2011, 08:05:20 EST
SPORTSbyBROOKS SPORTSbyBROOKS
Baggett out at Tenn b/c he couldn't close Memphis or ATL. Told Tenn may raise Lance Thompson, possibly w/ Baggett Asst HC title (see UAB)


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: BigOrange Maniac on December 01, 2011, 08:12:10 EST
SPORTSbyBROOKS SPORTSbyBROOKS
Baggett out at Tenn b/c he couldn't close Memphis or ATL. Told Tenn may raise Lance Thompson, possibly w/ Baggett Asst HC title (see UAB)

That would be very smart.


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: BigOrange Maniac on December 01, 2011, 08:14:49 EST
If Russell goes to WaSt, why not shift TEs to Heistand (or whoever replaces him) and free up the spot to make a serious push at Jay Graham? To me, that would be preferable to firing Hinshaw...although Baggett can obviously coach QBs (so can Martin if UT were to hire him), I like what Hinshaw has been doing. Plus if half of the rumors pan out, it makes sense to try and avoid further turnover.


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: BigOrange Maniac on December 02, 2011, 01:46:20 EST

TonyBasilio Tony Basilio
I hear Wilcox is meeting with some of his players today. Will post update later today when I get it. #Vols

I would just like to point out that this apparently didn't happen. Basilio was wrong. Anyone surprised? No? Didn't think so...


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: VinnieVOL on December 02, 2011, 02:09:32 EST
I would just like to point out that this apparently didn't happen. Basilio was wrong. Anyone surprised? No? Didn't think so...

Figures.  I would be surprised if 1/3 of his little "expose" was true.   :rolleyes:


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: BigOrange Maniac on December 02, 2011, 03:29:12 EST
ESPN is reporting today that Petersen isn't likely to be a candidate at UCLA. Good for us, I suppose.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncf/story/_/id/7305778/boise-state-not-allow-chris-petersen-talk-ucla-bruins-source-says


Title: Re: Charlie Baggett is out
Post by: Volznut on December 02, 2011, 03:46:45 EST
Come to UGA, Cordarrelle Patterson!   :thumbup:

Go Dawgs!


His recruiter for UT is Darin Hinshaw. So, if Hinshaw actually gets moved to coach Wrs, it could help UT