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Has been accepted. Details won't be released until after CDD is dismissed. This is just what I've heard. But I'm sold on my source. TIFWIW

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Seriously....I am going to have to go on meds if this doesn't pan out.  :dielaughing: 

I plan on self medicating no matter how it turns out.

Good idea - Margaritas for everyone!!  :beer:

That must come with a really steep buyout if this doesn't work out. That concerns me.

Where'd you find a picture of my dog? :biggrin:

I bet the buyout will be $10 million. Don't fight it, be positive. We are fizzleed now so might as well shoot for the moon.

Yep, if we get him... Just dive in and enjoy!  It will have meant we took one giant swing for the fences and connected.

These numbers make my head hurt. Of course getting someone like Gruden is going to cost, and if it works out . . . great. But if it doesn't? Ugh. Mortgage Neyland Stadium?

I have a hard time imagining that Gruden wouldn't be successful. One can doubt whether the level of success would match that kind of contract, but at this point UT football needs some minimum level of success to avoid falling into the abyss completely. I have little doubt that Gruden could provide that. He's a smart guy, speaks well, is well known by fans, coaches, and players at all levels and should be a major draw for top level athletes.

Would he win national titles? Who knows, but even without that he may be one of our best bets to save the program, even at that price tag.

I am Mr. Contingency Planning. On a possibly related note I am not much fun. On the bright side when is the first report ever right? I'm putting stock in the 18th version, whatever it is. Hopefully it does not involve kidneys from half of X10 and a pee wee coach from Harrogate.

I don't think Gruden's success is guaranteed either, but we've been down the bargain bin coach road too many times.  It's time to go all in.

Do you remember the swell of hype that came when Saban arrived at Bama?  I remember thinking "huh, he hasn't done shizzle".. but it's almost like their was such an injection of confidence into that program that it willed it to a new level.  Time will only tell if Gruden could do the same for us, but logic says it just might.

VN is saying Arky boards are lighting up.  It's possible we're in a bidding war...

Damn them to hell and gone! Nobody wants to go to Arkansas....

I wonder if coaches contracts are backloaded like players contracts, and with "performance" clauses?  Probably so. Wow that is a lot of dough!

Hart is an idiot if he gets in a bidding war with Arkansas. IF Gruden wants to return to coaching it won't be about the money. My guess is this is hooey. The Hogs will get a good hire in Strong or Patterson.

(scooting over here on rumor that Lyn was getting a new boyfriend)

It's not a rumor - I fully expect to get his Super Bowl ring in the mail this week so I can start wearing it on a chain around my neck.  :kiss2:

LOLZ!!! Awesome.  :dielaughing:

I have a hard time imagining he wouldn't be more successful.

Much harder to see him being successful enough

But maybe he will....if and when he is the coach.

football----by far

IF we get him, and he then fails... it would be a fail of epic proportions.

No, no.. can't think that way.  All in.

If we get him, not for long. Bama will extend and make Saban the highest paid, and Miles has some sort of crazy "highest paid coach" clause in his deal.

Ugh!  $6.2million per year for a guy who has never been a head coach in college football.  Yes, he was a quarterbacks and wide receivers coach in college, and he must have done some recruiting, but that was what, 23 or 24 years ago?  His overall record in the NFL as head coach was 95-81.  I know, I know, he won a Super Bowl with Tampa Bay, but his overall record there was just 57-55.  I really don't see the appeal, other than the "celebrity" factor.  I just don't see the coaching appeal, but I have never viewed him as being exceptional in coaching in any way.  When Kiffin and Dooley were hired, neither were in my top 5 choices.  If he's hired, Gruden will join that club.  But, if he becomes a Vol, again, I will certainly wish him the best.  He's going to need it with kind of money at stake.

I view Gruden as definitely solid, but very view guys are definitely going to kill it. Saban at Bama was guaranteed as was Petrino at Arkansas. Brown at Texas was. Fulmer and Stoops were assistants who were close to locks, but there are very few sure things.

I think Leach at WSU is guaranteed to do well there by Cougar standards. Dungy and Cowher are sure-fire winners, but I'm not sure Gruden is in their class. That having been said I'll back him and be interested to see what he can do IF he comes on board.

Hey, I wait three years to grade pretty much every coach.

Without a doubt he is better than what UT has. That's all I have right now.

Dungy and Gruden are very similar if not for Peyton.

Saban was 34–24–1 at Michigan State and 48-16 at LSU prior to becoming head coach at bama.  Not spectacular, but very successful and certainly a solid college head coaching foundation.  I hated it when he went to bama, since I assumed the school's football history and usual recruiting base would make him even more successful.

Pete Carroll is a better comparison than Saban, except Gruden had more NFL success than Carroll.

Probably, even if just because I think he would set up a better staff and would recruit better based on his name recognition.  But, that's a lot of money for someone I consider to be a so-so head coach.  I sure hope his ego lets him delegate because he has never impressed me with any coaching smarts.

Well salaries have escalated greatly. My hope is that his problems at Tampa were due to personnel issues. He was pretty good in Oakland.

He does bring credibility and a name that recruits know. I'm not sure who else they should hire.

But will Gruden cheat as well as Carroll did?  :wink:  Hey, if he's hired I hope Gruden goes undefeated every year and is ultimately considered a college football head coaching genious.  I have just never seen it displayed in his NFL head coaching jobs to date.  Then again, I am on the bottom rung of even the most novice football knowledge ladder, so....   :biggrin:

I sure hope so. ;)

Well, compared to all the ancient, broke down QBs he brought into Tampa Bray would be cosidered a mobile QB :rolleyes:

No way Bray plays a down next year IMO.

Thanks for raining on our parade. You remind me of this guy.   (http://deniskitchen.com/docs/bios/bio.jbtfsplk.jpg)

I don't disagree

Joe Btfsplk! My favorite Lil Abner character. I thought about that the other day, how UT was like Joe Btfsplk.  :laugh:

Sorry, man.  I'll try to be more positive if/when he's hired.  I have just never understood the hype.  Hopefully, if he's hired he'll make me understand.   :biggrin:

Thanks, but what am I going to do with all this Kool-Aid. :confused:

Gruden will be successful. He will be able to recruit like gangbusters, and football is all about getting talent. That is how Saban wins.

I would say he's at least above average, but otherwise agree.

OTOH, there is a rumor that Gruden is about to be hired and a rumor about the amount.  Either or both could be true or not.