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Title: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: Clockwork Orange on January 22, 2015, 06:01:29 EST
"to pursue other coaching opportunities."

Likely to be named head coach at CMU IMO.


Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: Tnphil on January 22, 2015, 06:06:42 EST
IIRC the current CMU is leaving to become the OC at Ark.


Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: PirateVOL on January 22, 2015, 06:11:40 EST
According to John Brice he is going to the Bucs as QB coach


Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: VinnieVOL on January 22, 2015, 06:16:58 EST
I'll be honest, my first reaction was  :clap:


Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: Clockwork Orange on January 22, 2015, 06:20:30 EST
According to John Brice he is going to the Bucs as QB coach

Wouldn't have to recruit then. I've heard he doesn't like that aspect of the college game much.

Butch should promote Azzanni to OC, IMO.


Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: VinnieVOL on January 22, 2015, 06:21:17 EST

Butch should promote Azzanni to OC, IMO.

My feelings as well.


Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: Live Orange on January 22, 2015, 06:32:08 EST
I wonder how this affects recruiting thirteen days before signing day..  :confused: :confused:


Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: VinnieVOL on January 22, 2015, 06:38:40 EST
I wonder how this affects recruiting thirteen days before signing day..  :confused: :confused:

Butch is out making visits, and I'm not thrilled at the thought of him having to turn his attention to his OC situation at this moment.  I'll be surprised if Z is not promoted.


Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: Clockwork Orange on January 22, 2015, 06:42:54 EST
I wonder how this affects recruiting thirteen days before signing day..  :confused: :confused:

He was primary recruiter for five guys in this class-- two are already enrolled and a third is Joc Bruce, a local kid many have been calling for the coaches us to turn loose. Sheriron Jones and Zach Stewart are the other two and Stewart is as solid as you could be.

I bet the impact will be minimal, especially if Z is promoted or a strong hire is made quickly.


Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: PirateVOL on January 22, 2015, 06:50:32 EST
He was primary recruiter for five guys in this class-- two are already enrolled and a third is Joc Bruce, a local kid many have been calling for the coaches us to turn loose. Sheriron Jones and Zach Stewart are the other two and Stewart is as solid as you could be.

I bet the impact will be minimal, especially if Z is promoted or a strong hire is made quickly.
I had forgotten that Z had been an OC before.
We would need a good QB coach in that case.

One question is if Z's personality is suitable for an OC.  His intensity is ok for a position coach but ...


Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: Creek Walker on January 22, 2015, 07:23:00 EST
I'll be honest, my first reaction was  :clap:

Mine too. I'm not sure about Azzani however.


Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: Tnphil on January 22, 2015, 08:08:55 EST
With the HC leaving today from Central Michigan to be the OC at Arkansas and Azzanni being a grad there and coached there plus I've heard the AD at CMU really likes him we need to act quick.

With the timing today I'm not sure that Jake won't be the coach at CMU. He was in the running there the last time they made a HC hire.


Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on January 23, 2015, 02:24:18 EST
RTI has a list of potential replacements.  Assuming we don't promote from within, Calvin Magee sounds like a very intriguing option.

http://www.rockytopinsider.com/2015/01/22/whos-next-looking-potential-oc-candidates/3/


Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: droner on January 23, 2015, 02:52:43 EST
Just for fun.....and living up to my role as instigator, I'll say it first.

Peyton Manning      :wave:


Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: Tnphil on January 23, 2015, 03:06:03 EST
Hearing Sonny Cumbie, CO-OC at TCU might be in play......That would be a good one.


Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: 10EC on January 23, 2015, 04:34:40 EST
Just for fun.....and living up to my role as instigator, I'll say it first.

Peyton Manning      :wave:

I would virtually hug you if that happened.


Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: Clockwork Orange on January 23, 2015, 02:43:18 EST
Hearing Sonny Cumbie, CO-OC at TCU might be in play......That would be a good one.

He's inexperienced but he's done well there and he's from the Mike Leach tree, which has done really well with offenses.



Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: murfvol on January 23, 2015, 04:31:33 EST
Cumbie is intriguing. Patterson is a defensive guy, but TCU's offense has been fantastic. I don't like hiring a guy who coaches the HC's side of the ball (e.g., Saban's DC).

Organization and communication are more important than play calling, but I'd really like to see us under center in short yardage situations.


Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: PirateVOL on January 24, 2015, 03:45:58 EST
I think we end up making 2-3 hires on the O-staff and may end up with co-coordinators ...

Butch plays things pretty close to the vest, often using "coach speak" and other methods to divert attention.  I think the DeBord "leaks" are one such diversion, possibly with NSD connotations.

I don't think that Jake will be the only departure (I think Jake's departure was not forced but the leaking of it forced some hands relative to timing) and I'm not talking about Z possibly going to CMU.  I think post NSD there might be one other departure.


Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: Tnphil on January 24, 2015, 06:05:59 EST
Hearing that Jancek might be in play for the CMU job? If so would he take Z as his OC?


Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: VinnieVOL on January 24, 2015, 07:31:20 EST
Hearing that Jancek might be in play for the CMU job? If so would he take Z as his OC?

If we lose Jancek and Z....  :frown:


Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: HerbTarlekVol on January 25, 2015, 03:52:43 EST
He was primary recruiter for five guys in this class-- two are already enrolled and a third is Joc Bruce, a local kid many have been calling for the coaches us to turn loose. Sheriron Jones and Zach Stewart are the other two and Stewart is as solid as you could be.

I bet the impact will be minimal, especially if Z is promoted or a strong hire is made quickly.

Butch isn't going to "turn loose" Joc Bruce.  Just not going to happen for several reasons, one being that he is a very good prospect. 

Joc is enrolling in June. 


Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: HerbTarlekVol on January 25, 2015, 03:53:37 EST
Just for fun.....and living up to my role as instigator, I'll say it first.

Peyton Manning      :wave:

Just shaking my head at you Droner.   :frown:


Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: HerbTarlekVol on January 25, 2015, 03:56:18 EST
I think we end up making 2-3 hires on the O-staff and may end up with co-coordinators ...

Butch plays things pretty close to the vest, often using "coach speak" and other methods to divert attention.  I think the DeBord "leaks" are one such diversion, possibly with NSD connotations.

I don't think that Jake will be the only departure (I think Jake's departure was not forced but the leaking of it forced some hands relative to timing) and I'm not talking about Z possibly going to CMU.  I think post NSD there might be one other departure.

DeBord makes less than no sense as the OC.  He's not a spread offensive guy in any shape, form, or fashion.  He may be hired as part of the offensive staff if Azzanni takes the CMU head coaching position, but I don't see DeBord being Butch's OC.  Just doesn't fit. 


Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: HerbTarlekVol on January 25, 2015, 04:43:30 EST
If we lose Jancek and Z....  :frown:

According to a published report that I saw earlier this morning the CMU head coaching job is going to pay right at $400K.  Both coordinator spots at UT pay in excess of $500K.  Both of those guys are smart enough to know the difference in those numbers, and both are smart enough to know that their path to a big time head coaching job is just as possible, if not more probable, as an OC of a Power 5 schools as it is from a MAC/mid-major school.  

And to follow that up, if Janzek were to be the head coach at CMU and Azzanni took the OC job, Azzanni would be taking a serious pay cut even from where he is now as the WR coach at just over $300K.  

Just don't see either leaving UT for CMU.  Doesn't make sense.  



Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: PirateVOL on January 26, 2015, 01:56:02 EST
From 247/Football Scoop Radio

Jones also said he’s received “great” input from a wide cast of characters — including Vols Hall of Fame coach Phillip Fulmer, Vols quarterback and future Hall of Famer Peyton Manning and former NFL head coach and Vols graduate assistant Jon Gruden — throughout the decision-making process.


Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: Creek Walker on January 26, 2015, 01:58:24 EST
From 247/Football Scoop Radio

Jones also said he’s received “great” input from a wide cast of characters — including Vols Hall of Fame coach Phillip Fulmer, Vols quarterback and future Hall of Famer Peyton Manning and former NFL head coach and Vols graduate assistant Jon Gruden — throughout the decision-making process.

So which one is gonna be our new OC -- Peyton or Gruden?  :laugh:


Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: HerbTarlekVol on January 26, 2015, 02:00:10 EST
So which one is gonna be our new OC -- Peyton or Gruden?  :laugh:

Well, they both own property in Tennessee ............................................   :eek:


Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: PirateVOL on January 26, 2015, 02:05:19 EST
Well, they both own property in Tennessee ............................................   :eek:
I've heard that ... :naughty:


Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: VinnieVOL on January 26, 2015, 01:46:53 EST
The longer this goes on, I no longer think it will be Coach Z.   :dunno:


Title: Re: Coach Jake is leaving
Post by: HerbTarlekVol on January 26, 2015, 03:58:33 EST
The longer this goes on, I no longer think it will be Coach Z.   :dunno:

I've seen/heard speculation from multiple sources that indicate there could be a split coordinator position with Azzanni being the "pass game coordiator" and DeBord the "run game coordiator" with Azzanni calling the plays. 

Still hoping it doesn't come down to that, however.  I really don't think DeBord makes any sense at all, unless he is coming in to replace our current OL coach.