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Title: Dear Hollywood: Stop it. Just stop. Sincerely, The World.
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on May 26, 2017, 03:57:20 EDT
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4217386/Scarface-remake-hit-theaters-2018.html


Title: Re: Dear Hollywood: Stop it. Just stop. Sincerely, The World.
Post by: VOLMAN on May 26, 2017, 02:11:56 EDT
AMEN. If they're so talented and creative then I want to see something original that warrants movie prices, else I'll continue to watch Fargo and the other creative shows being offered.      :patriot:   


Title: Re: Dear Hollywood: Stop it. Just stop. Sincerely, The World.
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on May 26, 2017, 11:04:12 EDT
To be honest, DePalma's Scarface, speaking strictly in a cinematic sense, wasn't the greatest movie anyway.  The acting, music, and cinematography was WAY over-the-top.  And I'm a huge Coen Brothers fan.  Pretty much anything they touch is going to be good (Hail Caesar aside), so I'm sure they'd do a good job with it.  But still, there are some movies you just don't touch, and Scarface is one of them.  In fact, you could make a legitimate argument that it's the most influential movie since Star Wars.  For the past 35 years or so, pretty much any movie, book, TV show, or videogame that has anything to do with Miami, organized crime, and/or the drug trade owes something to Scarface.  From Miami Vice, to Dexter, to Breaking Bad, to Grand Theft Auto.  Not to mention the countless references in music lyrics.  You just don't mess with something like that.

Between the countless remakes (was anyone really clamoring for a new C.H.I.P.s or Baywatch?) and the 25 or so superhero reboots that come out every year, there's a real creative void in Hollywood right now.  Seems like there's a real opportunity for some creative type to, you know, actually be creative. :frown:



Title: Re: Dear Hollywood: Stop it. Just stop. Sincerely, The World.
Post by: BanditVol on May 30, 2017, 06:19:41 EDT
To be honest, DePalma's Scarface, speaking strictly in a cinematic sense, wasn't the greatest movie anyway.  The acting, music, and cinematography was WAY over-the-top.  And I'm a huge Coen Brothers fan.  Pretty much anything they touch is going to be good (Hail Caesar aside), so I'm sure they'd do a good job with it.  But still, there are some movies you just don't touch, and Scarface is one of them.  In fact, you could make a legitimate argument that it's the most influential movie since Star Wars.  For the past 35 years or so, pretty much any movie, book, TV show, or videogame that has anything to do with Miami, organized crime, and/or the drug trade owes something to Scarface.  From Miami Vice, to Dexter, to Breaking Bad, to Grand Theft Auto.  Not to mention the countless references in music lyrics.  You just don't mess with something like that.

Between the countless remakes (was anyone really clamoring for a new C.H.I.P.s or Baywatch?) and the 25 or so superhero reboots that come out every year, there's a real creative void in Hollywood right now.  Seems like there's a real opportunity for some creative type to, you know, actually be creative. :frown:



I didn't know until fairly recently that the DePalma Scarface was a remake, and the original was a huge hit and the time and also set trends.  I think the DePalma Scarface might be the most successful remake since Ben Hur.

As to your criticisms above, I can see the acting being spotty in a couple places, and honestly for me, the majority of the movie wears on me if I try to rewatch it too much.  But sitting through it the  first time and also watching it a few years ago for the first time since the late 80s, it's nothing short of epoch.  It was if nothing else very self-contained and consistent in it's message. and while i am not a huge Pacino fan in his later years, I think it might be his best performance, the peak of his career.


Title: Re: Dear Hollywood: Stop it. Just stop. Sincerely, The World.
Post by: Coupe De VOL on June 01, 2017, 05:51:42 EDT
I don't really care that they're remaking Scarface - don't really consider it a sacred cow or anything.  However, a movie about a drug kingpin in LA?  How many times has that been done?  I guess I might be interested in the Coen Bros take on that - have they ever dealt with Latino culture in their movies?  I don't think so.  I guess No Country for Old Men touched on it a little bit, but they didn't write that one, and did very little adapting.  This one will be a pretty major re-write.