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Title: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: murfvol on November 08, 2020, 12:06:14 EST
"Dearly beloved, we are gathered here today to get through this thing called life..."
-Prince


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: Coupe De VOL on November 08, 2020, 12:12:12 EST
I know this will sound strange, but I oddly feel good about this game.  I have no frickin' clue why.    :dunno:

I give us a 35% chance of winning.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: VinnieVOL on November 08, 2020, 12:13:53 EST
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Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: murfvol on November 08, 2020, 12:16:16 EST
Much respect Coupe. I feel more like Vinnie's song.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: BanditVol on November 08, 2020, 12:17:51 EST
I also feel pessimistic, but I'll go with Coupe on this one.   :biggrin:


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: VinnieVOL on November 08, 2020, 12:22:53 EST
We've laid some eggs the past few times at Ark.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: Creek Walker on November 08, 2020, 01:34:43 EST
I don't even know why I'm sitting down to watch this game, with our stubborn head coach continuing to start a QB who repeatedly wets the bed and disgusts all of us.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: Creek Walker on November 08, 2020, 01:49:28 EST
A Trey Smith hold kills a momentous drive. Chaney doesn't trust JG to throw down the field on 3rd & 13 and settles for a WR screen for no gain.

So far, I suppose it's as expected.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: PirateVOL on November 08, 2020, 02:06:46 EST
Fast 1st quarter
VOLS 3 - Bacon 0


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: murfvol on November 08, 2020, 02:07:21 EST
I will absolutely take that first quarter.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: murfvol on November 08, 2020, 02:15:09 EST
That's the way to finish a drive.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: PirateVOL on November 08, 2020, 02:16:34 EST
We had Smith, Cade and Wanya+ Fant on the left side on that play


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: PirateVOL on November 08, 2020, 02:28:52 EST
JUUSSSTTTT a bit outside! :powert:


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: murfvol on November 08, 2020, 02:32:03 EST
Unforced errors for the opposition are wonderful.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: PirateVOL on November 08, 2020, 02:49:52 EST
DJ should be kicked out of the game


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: murfvol on November 08, 2020, 02:55:18 EST
I'll take 13-0, but wish it was more.

79 combined yards passing at the half.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: BanditVol on November 08, 2020, 03:15:21 EST
So far so good, just hope our second half performance is better than the last three.   :powert:


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: murfvol on November 08, 2020, 03:22:29 EST
So far so good, just hope our second half performance is better than the last three.   :powert:

Indeed


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: PirateVOL on November 08, 2020, 03:22:43 EST
three slants, 2 1st downs and a TD


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: PirateVOL on November 08, 2020, 03:28:29 EST
fizzleing brilliant starting the 2nd half


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: murfvol on November 08, 2020, 03:35:43 EST
I'm just glad their kicker missed a short one in the first half.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: Creek Walker on November 08, 2020, 03:38:00 EST
There may not be a head coach in P5 football any worse at halftime adjustments than Pruitt. Same ol’ song and dance every single game.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on November 08, 2020, 03:38:36 EST
We get schooled a lot after the half, it seems...... I agree CW


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: murfvol on November 08, 2020, 03:40:33 EST
Is 42 yards passing through the first 38+ minutes of a game good?


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: PirateVOL on November 08, 2020, 03:44:25 EST
What the ever living fizzle! :pin: :banghead: :wtf:


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: PirateVOL on November 08, 2020, 03:45:08 EST
Fire Ansley!


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: Creek Walker on November 08, 2020, 03:45:14 EST
Let’s face it. The coaching revolving door continues at Tennessee. It’s inevitable.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: murfvol on November 08, 2020, 03:45:43 EST
Better not get boat raced by UK and the Hogs in the same season


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: murfvol on November 08, 2020, 03:46:44 EST
In fairness, none of these issues were apparent this time last year. Oh wait, they were.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: PirateVOL on November 08, 2020, 03:49:32 EST
So Mauer had a read option package but hasn't run it it but once


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: PirateVOL on November 08, 2020, 03:50:10 EST
Better not get boat raced by UK and the Hogs in the same season
Too late


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: PirateVOL on November 08, 2020, 03:50:44 EST
We lead the SEC in defensive TOs :bird:


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: murfvol on November 08, 2020, 03:51:18 EST
Fire Ansley!

Doug Mathews noted last Sunday that we started the season with 4 defensive coaches and 6 offensive ones. Now that Brumbaugh is gone only 3 full-timers are on D, plus Pruitt, who can no longer assist with the secondary. Since 5 DBs are usually in the game this is a problem.

It also speaks poorly of the work being done on offense with that many coaches.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: PirateVOL on November 08, 2020, 03:53:43 EST
That was NOT pass interference


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: PirateVOL on November 08, 2020, 03:55:03 EST
Nice play by Jackson


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: murfvol on November 08, 2020, 03:55:44 EST
Whew. Only gave up 24 3rd quarter points to the Hogs.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: VinnieVOL on November 08, 2020, 03:56:26 EST
We are so much worse than last year in every phase of the game.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: PirateVOL on November 08, 2020, 03:57:59 EST
Whew. Only gave up 24 3rd quarter points to the Hogs.
Hey!  And only three (3) 3 and outs!


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on November 08, 2020, 04:03:14 EST
My read on what the announcer just said he was told by CJP:  I don't want to put my young QBs in harms way so I'm not playing them.  Also I think that's why JG isn't very good - because of all of the lumps he took early in his career.

Did I interpret that incorrectly?


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: murfvol on November 08, 2020, 04:04:34 EST
Hey!  And only three (3) 3 and outs!

The open week was productive.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: VinnieVOL on November 08, 2020, 04:06:04 EST
Can't wait for Pruitt to tell us how they've had some of the best practices of the year this coming week.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: wtkvol on November 08, 2020, 04:08:59 EST
My read on what the announcer just said he was told by CJP:  I don't want to put my young QBs in harms way so I'm not playing them.  Also I think that's why JG isn't very good - because of all of the lumps he took early in his career.

Did I interpret that incorrectly?

Then suggest he go play for the band. If you are worried about safety


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: PirateVOL on November 08, 2020, 04:09:48 EST
What was that I just witnessed?


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: PirateVOL on November 08, 2020, 04:11:48 EST
What was that I just witnessed?

& a 2nd what ever it was!


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: murfvol on November 08, 2020, 04:12:32 EST
Respect to those guys for still playing hard.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: PirateVOL on November 08, 2020, 04:16:57 EST
Why does our OL look so fizzleing bad in the 2nd half?


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: murfvol on November 08, 2020, 04:18:50 EST
After 50 minutes and 40 seconds of play we still have utilized the forward pass for 42 yards of offense. That's fine if you're 1985 OU.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: PirateVOL on November 08, 2020, 04:19:50 EST
HB in the game


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: Creek Walker on November 08, 2020, 04:22:31 EST
Weinke and Friend have to go. And we all know neither is going anywhere.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: PirateVOL on November 08, 2020, 04:26:21 EST
MASSIVE PASS INTERENCE on #1
Not called


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: droner on November 08, 2020, 04:26:24 EST
I'm no college football play calling guru.

But that play calling sucked. In my humble opinion.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: murfvol on November 08, 2020, 04:27:04 EST
Weinke and Friend have to go. And we all know neither is going anywhere.

Friend has been arguably the biggest liability since day one.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: VinnieVOL on November 08, 2020, 04:27:21 EST
Coaching scared.  Per the usual.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on November 08, 2020, 04:28:46 EST
I think you take the FG there.  At least gives you a chance.  Especially if you have no faith in your QB.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: murfvol on November 08, 2020, 04:29:41 EST
Shortcomings of JG (not his fault he's playing) have been known for years, but there's complete lack of preparation behind him for the past two seasons.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: murfvol on November 08, 2020, 04:30:44 EST
I think you take the FG there.  At least gives you a chance.  Especially if you have no faith in your QB.


That line of thinking has merit.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: Creek Walker on November 08, 2020, 04:41:13 EST
Let’s just go get Hugh Freeze and end this freaking insanity.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: BanditVol on November 08, 2020, 04:50:32 EST
MASSIVE PASS INTERENCE on #1
Not called

Yeah that sucked.  But we should have kicked the FG


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: VinnieVOL on November 08, 2020, 04:51:06 EST
Let’s just go get Hugh Freeze and end this freaking insanity.

You know us, we'll let someone else snatch him up.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: BanditVol on November 08, 2020, 04:53:54 EST
Horrible second half again  :hurl:  Bad on both sides of the ball.  WTF is up with that, happens every single game.

Should have kicked the FG in the 4th.

Harrison tried, but it was too late.

At least our D did step up in the 4th. If only they had done that 15 minutes earlier.

This season is officially shot.  We should still beat Vandy and by some miracle might upset Auburn, but otherwise we are staring 3-7 in the face.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: Tnphil on November 08, 2020, 05:12:52 EST
Bad coached team.....And no we aren't beating Auburn.

Bailey should have been gotten ready after the KY game....Coaching malpractice

We conceded the game the first half when we let JG only throw 8 times for 47 yards because they have no faith in him......Like Ark was going to let us keep running it....They adjusted at the half and our non coaches didn't. Pruitt is done....he'll be here another year but he's done. Next we'll probably watch recruits start jumping ship.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on November 08, 2020, 05:16:48 EST
It isn't just recruits that may jump ship if the NCAA allows that one-time transfer next August.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: droner on November 08, 2020, 05:20:05 EST
You know us, we'll let someone else snatch him up.

South Carolina fans are talking about Freeze. Their problem is Muschamp's buy out.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on November 08, 2020, 05:27:22 EST
CJP sounding like Butch Jones in the press conference:  he thought the 42 yard FG wasn't a good decision because Cimaglia was a game-time decision and he thought going for the 4th and 3 was the best option.  Just own it, admit that you screwed the call.


Title: 4th down and went for it
Post by: japanvol on November 08, 2020, 05:33:50 EST
I see a lot of people saying they would have kicked the 42 yard field goal on that 4th down instead of going for it. While I’m as skeptical as anyone about the staff, and think HB should have been getting the bulk of the snaps for multiple games now, I can live with the decision to forgo the FG attempt. I’m not sure UT had been in Ark territory in the 2H before that possession, the WR was open and HB made a good enough throw, but the refs missed an obvious PI. If that penalty is correctly called who knows what happens next. The calls and bounces just didn’t go UT’s way tonight. That doesn’t excuse the lack of 2H adjustments (for the 4th game in a row) it just makes it that much difficult to win the game.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: Creek Walker on November 08, 2020, 06:30:31 EST
CJP sounding like Butch Jones in the press conference:  he thought the 42 yard FG wasn't a good decision because Cimaglia was a game-time decision and he thought going for the 4th and 3 was the best option.  Just own it, admit that you screwed the call.

After Cimaglia hit from 48 and 50 earlier in the game.  :rolleyes:


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: Tnphil on November 08, 2020, 06:38:49 EST
After Cimaglia hit from 48 and 50 earlier in the game.  :rolleyes:

This!!!! Just more proof Pruitt is way over his head.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: wtkvol on November 08, 2020, 03:41:09 EST
Bad coached team.....And no we aren't beating Auburn.

Bailey should have been gotten ready after the KY game....Coaching malpractice

We conceded the game the first half when we let JG only throw 8 times for 47 yards because they have no faith in him......Like Ark was going to let us keep running it....They adjusted at the half and our non coaches didn't. Pruitt is done....he'll be here another year but he's done. Next we'll probably watch recruits start jumping ship.
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The season is lost. We need to get Bailey experience for next year. And spare fans of seeing the QB’s we have been watching.


Title: Re: 4th down and went for it
Post by: BanditVol on November 08, 2020, 04:22:41 EST
I see a lot of people saying they would have kicked the 42 yard field goal on that 4th down instead of going for it. While I’m as skeptical as anyone about the staff, and think HB should have been getting the bulk of the snaps for multiple games now, I can live with the decision to forgo the FG attempt. I’m not sure UT had been in Ark territory in the 2H before that possession, the WR was open and HB made a good enough throw, but the refs missed an obvious PI. If that penalty is correctly called who knows what happens next. The calls and bounces just didn’t go UT’s way tonight. That doesn’t excuse the lack of 2H adjustments (for the 4th game in a row) it just makes it that much difficult to win the game.

I agree that the pass almost worked, and coulda woulda had the refs not blown the call.

Having said that, we went right down the field and had a shot at 6 at the end of the game.  I will add that if it's two TDs, we don't need a two point conversion which would have been tough anyway.

But what really lost the game was the third quarter.  No 4th quarter heroics necessary without the 3rd quarter collapse.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on November 08, 2020, 04:34:13 EST
The 3rd quarter was definitely what beat this team.  After the 3rd, I think Arkansas dialed it back offensively because they were confident that we could not score enough to win.  I think that if they had needed more points in the 4th quarter, the 3rd quarter scoring barrage would have easily extended into the 4th.

The drive at the end of the game was mostly due to the fact that they were quite happy to give us the dump off over the middle.  Had we been within one score, their defense would have been much different in that situation.

After sleeping on it, I still disagree with not kicking the FG but I'm not as upset over the gamble.  I also may have incorrectly interpreted CJP's reply in the presser - I took it that he wasn't confident of Cimaglia's ability to hit the kick.  Maybe he just meant that he thought that getting the TD was the best option.  If that is what he meant, that was not as Butch-esque as I initially thought.


Title: Re: 4th down and went for it
Post by: PirateVOL on November 08, 2020, 04:35:12 EST
I agree that the pass almost worked, and coulda woulda had the refs not blown the call.

Having said that, we went right down the field and hot a shot at 6 at the end of the game.  I will add that if it's two TDs, we don't need the extra point.

But what really lost the game was the third quarter.  No 4th quarter heroics necessary without the 3rd quarter collapse.
The pass was late and he was clearly interfered with
Hyatt ran a good route, exactly how he should have, Bailey was late but still, a better pass than JG would have thrown, since it was inside his body frame - JG would have gotten Hyatt laid out


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: HerbTarlekVol on November 08, 2020, 05:10:36 EST
Our coaches went fizzleing brain dead in the second half. 

Every single one of them. 


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: BanditVol on November 08, 2020, 10:17:28 EST
The 3rd quarter was definitely what beat this team.  After the 3rd, I think Arkansas dialed it back offensively because they were confident that we could not score enough to win.  I think that if they had needed more points in the 4th quarter, the 3rd quarter scoring barrage would have easily extended into the 4th.

The drive at the end of the game was mostly due to the fact that they were quite happy to give us the dump off over the middle.  Had we been within one score, their defense would have been much different in that situation.

After sleeping on it, I still disagree with not kicking the FG but I'm not as upset over the gamble.  I also may have incorrectly interpreted CJP's reply in the presser - I took it that he wasn't confident of Cimaglia's ability to hit the kick.  Maybe he just meant that he thought that getting the TD was the best option.  If that is what he meant, that was not as Butch-esque as I initially thought.

agree that our D was helped mightily by Arkansas abandoning the hurry up and also passing less to run the clock.  Still, had they continued to throw it maybe we get a pick?  Our int percentage is terrible though so I wouldn't count on it.

Also agree that Bailey was hitting easy wide open passes, but it did move us down the field and he did at least hit them. I would add that we really don't know that much about Bailey yet, but what I did see was mostly good at least.  I truly hope he sees the field against Auburn (or Tamu, whoever we play next, too lazy to look it up.  (-:  ).


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: BanditVol on November 08, 2020, 10:24:19 EST
Our coaches went fizzleing brain dead in the second half. 

Every single one of them. 

Hell might just freeze over.  I agree.   :laugh:


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: volsboy on November 09, 2020, 05:51:03 EST
So much for the good feeling I had about this game. Thought we might win.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: BanditVol on November 09, 2020, 07:09:38 EST
So much for the good feeling I had about this game. Thought we might win.

We should have


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: HerbTarlekVol on November 09, 2020, 03:56:38 EST
Friend has been arguably the biggest liability since day one.

What's sad is that had Chaney not taken the OC job, Friend was next on the offer it to list. 



Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on November 09, 2020, 05:38:54 EST
We could have also possibly hired Briles (although he would not have had success here with JG).

Also, if CJP is micro-managing Chaney it would not have made any difference who we had on staff.  If Chaney has become this vanilla on his own, he needs to get out of coaching, imo.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: VinnieVOL on November 09, 2020, 06:51:21 EST
What's sad is that had Chaney not taken the OC job, Friend was next on the offer it to list. 



Lol, wow.. forgot about that. 


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: murfvol on November 09, 2020, 10:15:40 EST
What's sad is that had Chaney not taken the OC job, Friend was next on the offer it to list. 



Whoa Herb. That had totally slipped my mind.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: HerbTarlekVol on November 10, 2020, 05:59:23 EST
For those who are in the "Sankey won't let Hugh Freeze coach in the SEC" camp, Tony Basilio just made a great point.  The SEC is a league where the likes of Will Wade, Bruce Pearl, and Lane Kiffin are head coaches.  He's not going to block Freeze if somebody wants to hire him. 



Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: VinnieVOL on November 10, 2020, 10:36:46 EST
For those who are in the "Sankey won't let Hugh Freeze coach in the SEC" camp, Tony Basilio just made a great point.  The SEC is a league where the likes of Will Wade, Bruce Pearl, and Lane Kiffin are head coaches.  He's not going to block Freeze if somebody wants to hire him. 



Herb, I made fun of Basilio a lot in the past but nowadays that's about the only podcast I listen to daily nowadays.  I appreciate Tony because he doesn't try to pretend he's not upset.  He speaks just like we feel. 

And yes, he makes some very good points on Freeze.  And like one of his callers said, we could've had Mullen had we been willing to pull the trigger on this deal last time.  If we wait again someone else is going to get Freeze and win with Freeze.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: Creek Walker on November 10, 2020, 11:27:22 EST
For those who are in the "Sankey won't let Hugh Freeze coach in the SEC" camp, Tony Basilio just made a great point.  The SEC is a league where the likes of Will Wade, Bruce Pearl, and Lane Kiffin are head coaches.  He's not going to block Freeze if somebody wants to hire him. 



What about Fulmer? I just don't see it.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: Tnphil on November 11, 2020, 12:45:27 EST
Freeze will be in the SEC before too long down the road. A SEC team will hire him and tell Stinky Sankey to go Frick himself.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: HerbTarlekVol on November 11, 2020, 12:54:20 EST
What about Fulmer? I just don't see it.

Don't disagree, but as I have said - if Pruitt goes, Fulmer goes.  They are tied at the hip. 

Fulmer won't make the next football hire. 


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: VinnieVOL on November 11, 2020, 01:50:40 EST
Don't disagree, but as I have said - if Pruitt goes, Fulmer goes.  They are tied at the hip. 

Fulmer won't make the next football hire. 

You really think so?  Just seems Fulmer was brought in so late in the game last time, his defense could be "look when I came on board, names like Pruitt were the only thing left..."


Title: Re: Game Thread: Arkansas
Post by: Creek Walker on November 11, 2020, 04:16:29 EST
Don't disagree, but as I have said - if Pruitt goes, Fulmer goes.  They are tied at the hip. 

Fulmer won't make the next football hire. 

I won't claim to have any special insight on the thinking of the BOT or the money folks who would force such a decision, but that just seems unlikely to me. Fulmer showed in his ascension to the AD's office that he still has a whopping amount of influence with people who matter.

It wouldn't bother me to see that move. There are parts of Fulmer being the AD that I like, and I feel we could do worse. But I also feel we would be in better shape with a true executive type in that office, with administrative experience (like a Blackburn) and I wonder if we wouldn't have been able to make a better hire last time around if that had been the case. Even after the way the search had been bungled, if we had to go with a coordinator with no head coaching experience, there were more seemingly options on the table. Pruitt wasn't exactly on anyone's radar as a head coaching candidate. I felt at the time that Fulmer was trying to bring in someone who matched his old-school personality and who he could control to at least some extent.