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Title: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: RockinGrannyVol on January 25, 2021, 03:15:12 EST
Hearing he has been offered 6mil a year with 5 year contract.  If he turns it down likely will be Elliott from Clemson.  Announcement by tomorrow afternoon?  

Guess we shall see!  Hearing from my big brother... don't know his source.

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Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: PirateVOL on January 25, 2021, 03:26:19 EST
Hearing he has been offered 6mil a year with 5 year contract.  If he turns it down likely will be Elliott from Clemson.  Announcement by tomorrow afternoon?  

Guess we shall see!  Hearing from my big brother... don't know his source.

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I could deal with that :powert:


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: VinnieVOL on January 25, 2021, 03:44:35 EST
Campbell told Texas no, didn't he?  Would be an incredible job for Danny White to land him.  I do think White has opened doors that would've never cracked with Fulmer as AD.



Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: murfvol on January 25, 2021, 03:45:04 EST
Good to see you Granny! I'd be o.k. with that scenario.


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on January 25, 2021, 03:50:57 EST
Rumors now that UT has offered a current P5 head coach $8M/yr for 5 years.........


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: VinnieVOL on January 25, 2021, 03:55:39 EST
Is this not what we've all wanted for so long?  For leadership to treat this place the way we all feel about it?  To be serious about winning?

They say it's darkest before the dawn, and Pruitt's end sure did feel like a pretty dark time.  Have we truly, finally decided to get serious about winning?


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: murfvol on January 25, 2021, 04:04:27 EST
Rumors now that UT has offered a current P5 head coach $8M/yr for 5 years.........

Please tell me it isn't Fleck. I'd rather have Mark Stoops, several posters on this board, or even a couple on VN. No probably not the latter.


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on January 25, 2021, 04:09:30 EST
Please tell me it isn't Fleck. I'd rather have Mark Stoops, several posters on this board, and even a couple on VN. No probably not the latter.

Fleck may be the greatest coach in the world. He may succeed in Knoxville beyond anyone's wildest dreams. But I would still have an irrational hatred for him, just because he reminds me so much of Arkansas State's head coach. :bird:


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on January 25, 2021, 04:23:53 EST
I think that only a handful of people at UT know what is happening.

If this rumor is true, or any of the rumors for that matter, I'd expect it to leak to the media from the coach's end of things.


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: murfvol on January 25, 2021, 04:51:10 EST
I think that only a handful of people at UT know what is happening.

If this rumor is true, or any of the rumors for that matter, I'd expect it to leak to the media from the coach's end of things.

Completely agree


Title: Re: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: RockinGrannyVol on January 25, 2021, 04:52:09 EST
I think that only a handful of people at UT know what is happening.

If this rumor is true, or any of the rumors for that matter, I'd expect it to leak to the media from the coach's end of things.
I read an article on White yesterday that talked about how he seems to work hard at preventing leaks.... so will be interesting to see how this all plays out... leaks or just rumors

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Title: Re: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on January 25, 2021, 04:58:56 EST
I read an article on White yesterday that talked about how he seems to work hard at preventing leaks.... so will be interesting to see how this all plays out... leaks or just rumors
I read similar things about White. In fact, one thing that I read yesterday suggested that he would even put out false tidbits within the athletic department staff to test the "leak factor", after having informed said staffers that leaking information was an offense that could lead to firing of those who were guilty.

If true, this guy doesn't play around.


Title: Re: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: PirateVOL on January 25, 2021, 05:03:48 EST
I read similar things about White. In fact, one thing that I read yesterday suggested that he would even put out false tidbits within the athletic department staff to test the "leak factor", after having informed said staffers that leaking information was an offense that could lead to firing of those who were guilty.

If true, this guy doesn't play around.
He wants the AD to have one voice
AS a side note, the good ole boy network of Fulmer is (soon to be) GONE!


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: PirateVOL on January 25, 2021, 05:07:43 EST
One other thing we might be hearing are agents circulating things, either to gage interest of gain raises from their current schools
Especially the agent is Sexton

I would be willing to bet that whoever DW hires, his agent will NOT be Sexton
BTW, if true, that derails the Lane Train ... :nod: :naughty: :dunno:


Title: Re: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on January 25, 2021, 05:12:31 EST
I read similar things about White. In fact, one thing that I read yesterday suggested that he would even put out false tidbits within the athletic department staff to test the "leak factor", after having informed said staffers that leaking information was an offense that could lead to firing of those who were guilty.

If true, this guy doesn't play around.

The Tyrion Lannister technique. :biggrin:


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on January 25, 2021, 05:18:24 EST
One other thing we might be hearing are agents circulating things, either to gage interest of gain raises from their current schools
Especially the agent is Sexton

I would be willing to bet that whoever DW hires, his agent will NOT be Sexton
BTW, if true, that derails the Lane Train ... :nod: :naughty: :dunno:
I think I read that Campbell didn’t use an agent?


Title: Re: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: BanditVol on January 25, 2021, 06:17:10 EST
I read similar things about White. In fact, one thing that I read yesterday suggested that he would even put out false tidbits within the athletic department staff to test the "leak factor", after having informed said staffers that leaking information was an offense that could lead to firing of those who were guilty.

If true, this guy doesn't play around.

Sounds great to me.  Hope it's true.


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: Cobbvol on January 25, 2021, 01:08:21 EST
I think I read that Campbell didn’t use an agent?

That is correct. Tony Elliott did not have representation as well until recently.


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: Coupe De VOL on January 25, 2021, 04:09:06 EST
Campbell would be a solid hire.  Probably the best target out there, IMO. 


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: BanditVol on January 25, 2021, 05:00:44 EST
Campbell would be a solid hire.  Probably the best target out there, IMO. 

Plus one


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on January 25, 2021, 05:05:18 EST
Brain Rice says that if the search goes past noon on Tuesday we have likely been turned down my multiple coaches.


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: murfvol on January 25, 2021, 05:29:20 EST
Brain Rice says that if the search goes past noon on Tuesday we have likely been turned down my multiple coaches.

I buy this.


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: Tnphil on January 25, 2021, 05:47:33 EST
Brain Rice says that if the search goes past noon on Tuesday we have likely been turned down my multiple coaches.

This is my concern.....It seems under normal hiring conditions we get turned down by our top choices and we settle. Right now with sanctions waiting in the wings it's far from normal and it's hard for me to understand what coach would want to leave a stable program and head into what we are probably about to face? Of course you can throw big $$$$ and make it attractive but we better not throw big $$$$ at a unknown because we just went down that road and it was a EPIC fail.


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on January 25, 2021, 06:13:31 EST
This is my concern.....It seems under normal hiring conditions we get turned down by our top choices and we settle. Right now with sanctions waiting in the wings it's far from normal and it's hard for me to understand what coach would want to leave a stable program and head into what we are probably about to face? Of course you can throw big $$$$ and make it attractive but we better not throw big $$$$ at a unknown because we just went down that road and it was a EPIC fail.
I completely agree.


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: RockinGrannyVol on January 25, 2021, 06:24:46 EST
Yep and just got this from my brother... certainly not surprised... Campbell was too good to be true,  IMO

Starting to feel uneasy. Still anticipating an announcement by end of day, but may not be the splash hire we are hoping for....Elliott from Clemson???


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Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: BanditVol on January 25, 2021, 06:39:35 EST
This is my concern.....It seems under normal hiring conditions we get turned down by our top choices and we settle. Right now with sanctions waiting in the wings it's far from normal and it's hard for me to understand what coach would want to leave a stable program and head into what we are probably about to face? Of course you can throw big $$$$ and make it attractive but we better not throw big $$$$ at a unknown because we just went down that road and it was a EPIC fail.

It seems someone at a lower tier school like ISU would want to step up at some point and not be afraid of the challenge.  But then again, only a tool like Kiffin would walk into a situation where the NCAA is about to drop the hammer. 

It's possible our next coach will be just a guy who holds things together awhile while we wait for sanctions to die out.  hope not though!


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on January 25, 2021, 07:40:38 EST
I'm not in panic mode yet.

I really feel like nobody has any information and everyone is simply speculating.  No news isn't necessarily a bad thing, but the longer it drags on the more I'll feel it is getting to danger levels (talking days, not hours).


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: murfvol on January 25, 2021, 08:19:36 EST
Anything past Wednesday isn't a great sign. However, tis better to make a cheap decent hire than get an overpaid coach just to sign someone 48 hours earlier.


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: volsboy on January 25, 2021, 08:38:36 EST
Who would want Elliott from the Tiglets over all the other choices? Bbbbut he's a great OC. Really? He wasn't good until he got Watson and Lawrence at QB. Who wouldn't be good all of a sudden. Just like Bieniemy at KC. Was he a good OC before they got Mahomes? It looks like Andy Reid is holding the playsheet and calling the plays anyway. People need to look further into these guys story and see the whole picture. Hire a proven coach. Hope the AD knows what he's doing. He led those two powerhouses, Buffalo and UCF pretty well. But is he prepared for the SEC. Seems we still hire toddlers into big boy positions. Hope it all works out. 


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: RockinGrannyVol on January 25, 2021, 09:45:02 EST
LOL. This is so ridiculous.. now rumors of Franklin... so I'm personally writing it off my list!   In the past he's gotten some decent info,  so this time I thought I'd share.... not again!😂😂😂😂

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Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: murfvol on January 25, 2021, 09:48:54 EST
The Franklin rumors seem like they might be legit. I'm not a fan, but he seems like a slightly better option than Malzahn or Herman football-wise.


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: PirateVOL on January 25, 2021, 09:52:39 EST
LOL. This is so ridiculous.. now rumors of Franklin... so I'm personally writing it off my list!   In the past he's gotten some decent info,  so this time I thought I'd share.... not again!😂😂😂😂

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Nobody outside DW's inner circle has a clue
One of the Clayton aircraft headed for College Station earlier
That was proof positive that it was Franklin, except it wasn't.


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: PirateVOL on January 25, 2021, 09:53:29 EST
The Franklin rumors seem like they might be legit. I'm not a fan, but he seems like a slightly better option than Malzahn or Herman football-wise.
There is a family issue involved


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: VinnieVOL on January 25, 2021, 10:01:49 EST
I know we're not in a super great position to be picky, but I'll be pretty disappointed if it's Franklin.


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: murfvol on January 25, 2021, 10:13:50 EST
I know we're not in a super great position to be picky, but I'll be pretty disappointed if it's Franklin.

I'd rather take a flyer on Elliott than have Franklin, especially since the latter would cost 2x the price of the former.


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: BanditVol on January 25, 2021, 10:28:07 EST
I'm not in panic mode yet.

I really feel like nobody has any information and everyone is simply speculating.  No news isn't necessarily a bad thing, but the longer it drags on the more I'll feel it is getting to danger levels (talking days, not hours).

You know, no matter who the hire is, and no matter how he does, so far this has been the smoothest search since, IDK, Fulmer?  Who was the heir apparent after Johnny shat the bed and really the only serious candidate.

I mean, maybe the Lane Kiffin hiring went smoothly, honestly I don't recall, but I'd be willing to be there was at least one public rejection even back then.


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: PirateVOL on January 25, 2021, 10:34:29 EST
You know, no matter who the hire is, and no matter how he does, so far this has been the smoothest search since, IDK, Fulmer?  Who was the heir apparent after Johnny shat the bed and really the only serious candidate.

I mean, maybe the Lane Kiffin hiring went smoothly, honestly I don't recall, but I'd be willing to be there was at least one public rejection even back then.

Lane was an "all shizzle" hire from the clueless nice guy


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: Tnphil on January 25, 2021, 11:21:49 EST
Doesn't Clayton have a plant close to College station?

And I've heard Franklin and his family aren't together because he has a son that's been/being treated in Nashville?

Just a couple of nugs I've seen posted.


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on January 25, 2021, 11:39:40 EST
You know, no matter who the hire is, and no matter how he does, so far this has been the smoothest search since, IDK, Fulmer?  Who was the heir apparent after Johnny shat the bed and really the only serious candidate.

I mean, maybe the Lane Kiffin hiring went smoothly, honestly I don't recall, but I'd be willing to be there was at least one public rejection even back then.

During Fulmer's last season, way before the season was over, my boss at the time (who played at UT) told me that Fulmer would be out and that Lane Kiffin was going to be the next head coach at UT.  At that time I didn't even know who Kiffin was.


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on January 25, 2021, 11:41:44 EST
Doesn't Clayton have a plant close to College station?

And I've heard Franklin and his family aren't together because he has a son that's been/being treated in Nashville?

Just a couple of nugs I've seen posted.
Someone on VQ, who said that he was a Clayton employee, posted that the plane that went to State College was carrying a Clayton employee who was visiting their plant in a nearby town.


Title: Re: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: RockinGrannyVol on January 25, 2021, 11:55:01 EST
Someone on VQ, who said that he was a Clayton employee, posted that the plane that went to State College was carrying a Clayton employee who was visiting their plant in a nearby town.
Well for the record,  The UT plane was in Concord NC this morning, then in Atlanta for 3 hours,  then headed back to Knoxville.... what does all that mean???  Who the heck knows!😂😂😂😂

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Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: PirateVOL on January 26, 2021, 12:21:07 EST
Someone on VQ, who said that he was a Clayton employee, posted that the plane that went to State College was carrying a Clayton employee who was visiting their plant in a nearby town.
That would have been Brent


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on January 26, 2021, 12:28:19 EST
Hubbs may have posted it too, but the post I read was supposedly from a Clayton employee.  He claimed that he and another employee saw that their plane was headed to State College and thought it might be concerning Franklin.  He said that they then looked it up and found that it was only another Clayton employee.


Title: Re: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: BanditVol on January 26, 2021, 03:58:51 EST
Well for the record,  The UT plane was in Concord NC this morning, then in Atlanta for 3 hours,  then headed back to Knoxville.... what does all that mean???  Who the heck knows!😂😂😂😂

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NC is interesting.

Cut?  His name was thrown around a bit on Finebaum yesterday.

Mack Brown?  Probably not, but who knows.


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: volsboy on January 26, 2021, 05:06:47 EST
The Vols can't afford to hire another "he might be a good coach someday" type of coach. Our football program is too much of a dumpster fire to hire a coach that needs on the job training like Pruitt did. What kind of stupid are you if you expect to hire someone with no head coaching experience and expect them to turn your program around while learning to be a head coach at the same time? Plus..are you telling me no one in the athletic department new they were paying players. Weren't you a little bit skeptical when we had a top 5 class all of a sudden. But according to Pirate I know nothing about football. We are Ole Miss all over again. Hire an effing proven coach.


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: volsboy on January 26, 2021, 05:15:49 EST
Hell Deion Sanders would be a better choice than some of the ones we seem to like.


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: murfvol on January 26, 2021, 05:22:36 EST
Brady or Healy could prompt a trip to the Concord (outskirts of Charlotte) airport.


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: RockinGrannyVol on January 26, 2021, 08:32:33 EST
What's the take from you guys on Franklin?   I've never liked him, but that name keeps coming up so was curious as to your take on him.

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Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: Coupe De VOL on January 26, 2021, 08:42:38 EST
What's the take from you guys on Franklin?   I've never liked him, but that name keeps coming up so was curious as to your take on him.

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That would literally be completely demoralizing and heartbreaking to me.  I think I would just give up on UT football - perhaps.  I can not stand the dude, but yeah, he is probably an OK coach.  However, his record at PSU ain't that great.  Can't stand the guy is probably holding back a good bit - I despise that fizzleing shizzlehead. 


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on January 26, 2021, 09:17:03 EST
What's the take from you guys on Franklin?   I've never liked him, but that name keeps coming up so was curious as to your take on him.

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I don't like Franklin, but if he can build this program I can learn to love him.  I think that would be a really good hire for UT at this point in time.

Nick Saban is one of the biggest turds on the planet, but folks in Bama love him.  The same will happen in Tennessee (for the most part) if JF is hired and can win here.


Title: Re: Matt Campbell as New HC?
Post by: VinnieVOL on January 26, 2021, 09:21:09 EST
What's the take from you guys on Franklin?   I've never liked him, but that name keeps coming up so was curious as to your take on him.

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I don't like him, and am not particularly excited about the idea of him being our head coach.

That being said, the last few times we've been through this.... we ended up falling about 3 levels past the guy I was initially "meh" about, so... I was hoping we could do better, but I guess we could do worse.