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Title: We ain't as bad off as USCw
Post by: PirateVOL on September 20, 2021, 04:38:38 EDT
https://twitter.com/DSJR1/status/1439033962853109765?s=20 (https://twitter.com/DSJR1/status/1439033962853109765?s=20)


Title: Re: We ain't as bad off as USCw
Post by: HerbTarlekVol on September 20, 2021, 03:18:30 EDT
Must have been designed by a former Air Force engineer.   :naughty:


Title: Re: We ain't as bad off as USCw
Post by: PirateVOL on September 20, 2021, 03:27:38 EDT
Must have been designed by a former Air Force engineer.   :naughty:
Tsk, Tsk
You are now officially on the "list" my friend ... :nono:


Title: Re: We ain't as bad off as USCw
Post by: HerbTarlekVol on September 20, 2021, 03:43:59 EDT
Tsk, Tsk
You are now officially on the "list" my friend ... :nono:

Got news for you, my friend.  That's likely not the first "list" I am on these days.  Being PC ain't my thing.   :angel:


Title: Re: We ain't as bad off as USCw
Post by: BanditVol on September 20, 2021, 08:31:32 EDT
https://twitter.com/DSJR1/status/1439033962853109765?s=20 (https://twitter.com/DSJR1/status/1439033962853109765?s=20)


One of the talking heads on ESPN said the ground crew failed to set up some GSE on the tail.  So it's a ground ops fail.  I'm sure the loading of the plane contributed to it, but it's a known sitiuation that they have GSE for.


Title: Re: We ain't as bad off as USCw
Post by: PirateVOL on September 20, 2021, 09:08:54 EDT

One of the talking heads on ESPN said the ground crew failed to set up some GSE on the tail.  So it's a ground ops fail.  I'm sure the loading of the plane contributed to it, but it's a known sitiuation that they have GSE for.
The DC-9/MD-80 (especially) and B-727 had tail poles to prevent this, not sure about B-737 and higher (didn't see a place for one to be attached when I was working on a modification of a 737 derivative.  More like poor pax loading/unloading process to me.


Title: Re: We ain't as bad off as USCw
Post by: BanditVol on September 21, 2021, 12:07:36 EDT
The DC-9/MD-80 (especially) and B-727 had tail poles to prevent this, not sure about B-737 and higher (didn't see a place for one to be attached when I was working on a modification of a 737 derivative.  More like poor pax loading/unloading process to me.

I wasn't speculating on what might have gone wrong, just repeating what ESPN said. 

Per SI, it was a "tail stand".

https://www.si.com/college/2021/09/18/usc-trojans-plane-tipped-backward-sitting-airport-tarmac

The grounds crew for the plane did not put the plane's tail stand in place. After the scary moment, the grounds crew leveled the plane, allowing the remainder of the passengers to exit.

Did you do ground ops in the AF?  Based on what you have done for contractors, I would have thought you did maintenence of weapons systems.  Of course, depending on how long you were in, you might have done multiple tasks over time.

My BIL did maintainence, though I can't recall what models. I want to say B-52s though.  His last assignment was Travis AFB in the early 90s, so whatever was based there at the time.