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Title: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: murfvol on November 20, 2022, 12:53:12 EST
After today's less than impressive showings elsewhere we may not need style points. Just win baby.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: murfvol on November 20, 2022, 01:12:02 EST
Josephs in early


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: murfvol on November 20, 2022, 01:14:21 EST
Don't.get.so.far.upfield. Rushing past quasi -mobile QBs isn't helpful.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 01:16:36 EST
They faked a sweep to the left and nobody covered him
Fortunately we flush rather to the right


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 01:20:01 EST
We were in zone on 4th down
Tank slow as molasses

On the TD, did anyone cover the RB?
Opposite corner from my seat


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 01:24:23 EST
Thatís more like it
Hell of a job by the center of the line


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 01:26:32 EST
They were paying a LOT of attention to Hyatt


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 01:28:59 EST
Beasley has to make that tackle


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: murfvol on November 20, 2022, 01:31:43 EST
That's a helpful penalty.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: murfvol on November 20, 2022, 01:32:39 EST
Or not. Let's not make Rattler look like we made Richardson look.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 01:32:55 EST
Tank again


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 01:33:53 EST
Not a bad play by Slaughter with a safety over the top
But Ö



Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: murfvol on November 20, 2022, 01:35:07 EST
I am really hoping Christian Harrison and some of the freshmen can shore up the secondary quickly next year.

Gotta do a better job of getting home with the rush too.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 01:35:26 EST
So much for taking the crowd out of the game


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on November 20, 2022, 01:37:17 EST
Itís not like we didnít expect them to throw that football tonight, is it?


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: murfvol on November 20, 2022, 01:39:48 EST
Spraggins is getting worked


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: wtkvol on November 20, 2022, 01:41:11 EST
Spraggins is getting worked


He cannot block his man


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 01:42:26 EST
Haden in at corner


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 01:43:07 EST
Zero pressure


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: murfvol on November 20, 2022, 01:44:20 EST
Nice play on the ball Turnage


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 01:45:39 EST
No pressure and our secondary canít cover nor tackle


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 01:46:10 EST
Nice play on the ball Turnage
he knew the play and covered it well


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 01:46:45 EST
2nd they brought the back out and nobody covered him


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 01:51:15 EST
We have Hyatt and Squirrel in the game


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: VinnieVOL on November 20, 2022, 01:51:48 EST
Why did the clock keep running to end the qtr?  We got a 1st down...


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 01:52:16 EST
Ok, we have weathered the sandstorm
Now put on more steam and bring the lightning


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: murfvol on November 20, 2022, 01:53:34 EST
Hopefully this is a redux of '06 UGA, or whenever it was. Tereshinsky (sp?) played out of his mind early, but we won going away.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 01:59:30 EST
Hopefully this is a redux of '06 UGA, or whenever it was. Tereshinsky (sp?) played out of his mind early, but we won going away.
I was there
Flew in from California that morning


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: murfvol on November 20, 2022, 01:59:41 EST
Kick it.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: murfvol on November 20, 2022, 02:00:24 EST
I was there
Flew in from California that morning

The Dawgs reverted to the mean. Hopefully Carolina does the same.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 02:00:43 EST
Kick it.
disagree
Need to get 7


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: tshadow on November 20, 2022, 02:00:58 EST
Sc Didn't get the memo they was suppose to lose.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: murfvol on November 20, 2022, 02:03:06 EST
Glad to be wrong! Please send the memo ASAP tshadow.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: VinnieVOL on November 20, 2022, 02:04:04 EST
Me: kick the Fg

Also me: WOOHOO!


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: SmokeyJoe on November 20, 2022, 02:05:31 EST
Just tuned in... Durn :eek:


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: wtkvol on November 20, 2022, 02:10:12 EST
We are getting a taste of our own medicine


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: murfvol on November 20, 2022, 02:10:16 EST
Me: kick the Fg

Also me: WOOHOO!

Amen

Here's the thing. Nothing is linear. They're not going to score 84...I hope.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 02:10:50 EST
We havenít stopped them yet

On first and goal Walker read it well and the ran right by the runner

Walker was in at Star that drive

Haden and Turnage at corners

The usual suspects at safety

Is 5 their B/U QB  or just a wildcat guy?


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: murfvol on November 20, 2022, 02:11:11 EST
Mitchell whiffed on the long run, but there's plenty of blame to go around.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: 10EC on November 20, 2022, 02:11:40 EST
We havenít stopped them yet

On first and goal Walker read it well and the ran right by the runner

Walker was in at Star that drive

Haden and Turnage at corners

The usual suspects at safety

Is 5 their B/U QB  or just a wildcat guy?

Wildcat


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 02:12:11 EST
Mitchell whiffed on the long run, but there's plenty of blame to go around.
I was just thankful that Tank managed to get in his way


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 02:13:26 EST
One thing I noticed tonight is that Williams is the up back


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 02:16:42 EST
Sampson in the game


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 02:22:01 EST
Looked like classic targeting to me
Crown of the helmet


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: murfvol on November 20, 2022, 02:28:03 EST
Fatigue has not been the cause of our defensive woes. Just make a stop before the half.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: BanditVol on November 20, 2022, 02:29:19 EST
Fatigue has not been the cause of our defensive woes. Just make a stop before the half.

yes


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: wtkvol on November 20, 2022, 02:35:28 EST
Fatigue has not been the cause of our defensive woes. Just make a stop before the half.

Probably just a lack of talent ? In most cases


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 02:38:54 EST
Charles in for Turnage
Flowers was playing Star a couple of plays


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: droner on November 20, 2022, 02:39:59 EST
Memphis '96.  :frown:


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 02:40:07 EST
Fatigue has not been the cause of our defensive woes. Just make a stop before the half.
itís not fatigue


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: murfvol on November 20, 2022, 02:41:16 EST
Probably just a lack of talent ? In most cases

That's definitely a factor, but surely South Carolina wouldn't be the one to expose it this badly.

I like the upside of Charles.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: murfvol on November 20, 2022, 02:43:18 EST
Upside isn't the present.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: murfvol on November 20, 2022, 02:44:12 EST
I genuinely don't know if I've ever seen any game where one team scores TDs every possession in a half.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 02:44:16 EST
Right in front of me
Not at all sure what the fizzle Charles was doing


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: droner on November 20, 2022, 02:45:26 EST
I'm not an expert but I think that it probably would help if our defensive backs looked for the ball.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 02:54:18 EST
The good news
They didnít score on that possession  :naughty:


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: murfvol on November 20, 2022, 02:55:22 EST
Would you be willing to instruct these young men on said principle for $750k/annually?


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 03:00:32 EST
They do a far better job saluti g the troops than we do
Of course having Ft Jackson and Shaw AFB near helps


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 03:08:59 EST
 :patriot: What a salute to the troops! :thumbup:


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: VinnieVOL on November 20, 2022, 03:09:52 EST
What a weird day in college football.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on November 20, 2022, 03:09:56 EST
Thatís the most disappointed in a first half of football in a while. Of course for years there wasnít a lot of hope, but that half hurt my heart.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 03:22:32 EST
Haden and Slaughter were the corners
The usual suspects at safety

3 and out, a start


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 03:23:49 EST
Mincey has gone all the way at LT


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: BanditVol on November 20, 2022, 03:28:41 EST
Nice stop by the D.  (FINALLY!)

Now offense needs to get it back.  Should have scored on that first drive.

Just hope the defense is due to adjustments and that it continues


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 03:34:37 EST
Defense playing better
Though that is faint praise


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: BanditVol on November 20, 2022, 03:35:12 EST
THATS MORE LIKE IT!!!


Now stop them again D


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 03:36:37 EST
15+ yard cushion


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 03:39:12 EST
A big issue with the secondary is ZERO pressure on the QB


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 03:42:18 EST
I stood here and called #3 getting the ball
It was that obvious


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: Creek Walker on November 20, 2022, 03:44:13 EST
Can we freakin leave Willie Martinez in Columbia? This is embarrassing.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 03:44:16 EST
A couple of notes
Haden is the boundary corner and Slaughter the field corner

Haden needs to STFU and play better! :bird:
He always barki g after the (first down) catch


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 03:52:04 EST
Cocks seem to have a LOT of injuries in the first half 9 ďcrampedĒ up and then STAYED in the game!


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 03:56:57 EST
Pitt game all over again


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: tshadow on November 20, 2022, 03:57:15 EST
Where is the leadership? This may be the first game where we pay for our poor defense.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 03:59:05 EST
Charles is in for Hadden


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: Creek Walker on November 20, 2022, 03:59:32 EST
This is a total choke job. Not one single position on the field playing well.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on November 20, 2022, 04:00:00 EST
Rattler has flat outplayed Hooker tonight. He's looked really good.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: wtkvol on November 20, 2022, 04:01:29 EST
This is a total choke job. Not one single position on the field playing well.


Not one. But we do-have several playing terrible


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 04:03:31 EST
fizzleing zone
LBs both will poor drops


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: murfvol on November 20, 2022, 04:04:21 EST
3rd and 20? Really?


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: murfvol on November 20, 2022, 04:05:01 EST
Play any young guy on the trip. I don't care.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on November 20, 2022, 04:05:10 EST
That was pathetic!


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 04:05:20 EST
Not sure why Bru isnít playing
We subbed him out in the middle of a series and he hasnít Ben in the last 2 drives
Though he has his helmet on

Also, for the first time we have gone 4 wideouts at times


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: murfvol on November 20, 2022, 04:10:18 EST
Have we considered just forcing a field goal?


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on November 20, 2022, 04:12:31 EST
7/8 Ö.. TDs/possessions


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 04:12:52 EST
Who had the hands to the face?
Their PA system with the refs is worse than Neyland


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: VinnieVOL on November 20, 2022, 04:15:56 EST
Who had the hands to the face?
Their PA system with the refs is worse than Neyland

Baron, supposedly.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: wtkvol on November 20, 2022, 04:16:46 EST
Rattler has flat outplayed Hooker tonight. He's looked really good.

And it is not even close.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: tshadow on November 20, 2022, 04:17:09 EST
Back down to earth. Vanderbilt beat Florida. Wow. 28 points. Yuck.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: VinnieVOL on November 20, 2022, 04:21:18 EST
What a nightmare.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 04:21:51 EST
Milton the rest of the year


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: wtkvol on November 20, 2022, 04:24:29 EST
Milton the rest of the year


Practice the rest of the year.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: tshadow on November 20, 2022, 04:24:44 EST
Note to self: We've been playing with house money... No it doesn't work. Not at the hands of SCjr.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 04:25:02 EST
Milton and the receivers had a long discussion


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 04:26:01 EST
Hooker still in the tent


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: murfvol on November 20, 2022, 04:26:40 EST

Practice the rest of the year.

Absolutely. It stinks, but this will let us know what we have before the bullets start flying next fall.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: droner on November 20, 2022, 04:27:24 EST
We put it off as long as we could. A poor defense was bound to catch up with us at some point.

Tonight was the night.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: wtkvol on November 20, 2022, 04:36:56 EST
Absolutely. It stinks, but this will let us know what we have before the bullets start flying next fall.

We know what we have. We need a defensive coach with some bite. I donít think our head coach has any. He is responsible for this. This performance does not surprise anyone
. We just hoped it would not hhappen now.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on November 20, 2022, 04:38:29 EST
8/9 ÖÖ TDs/possessions


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: murfvol on November 20, 2022, 04:41:23 EST
We know what we have. We need a defensive coach with some bite. I donít think our head coach has any. He is responsible for this. This performance does not surprise anyone
. We just hoped it would not hhappen now.
I meant at QB, but agree we absolutely have to fix the defense.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: PirateVOL on November 20, 2022, 04:45:34 EST
Hooker just walked to the locker room
Sans jersey
Walking pretty good, no. Noticeable limp


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: VinnieVOL on November 20, 2022, 04:49:18 EST
Hooker just walked to the locker room
Sans jersey
Walking pretty good, no. Noticeable limp

Iíd be shocked if he wasnít done.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: murfvol on November 20, 2022, 04:55:54 EST
Agree with comparisons to the '01 SEC Championship Game


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: BanditVol on November 20, 2022, 05:04:11 EST
Agree with comparisons to the '01 SEC Championship Game

IN what way?  This wasn't nearly as high stakes, I mean the regular season's not over.  And 2001 was a close game.  And LSU was a good team even though we were heavily favored. 


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: Creek Walker on November 20, 2022, 05:07:31 EST
IN what way?  This wasn't nearly as high stakes, I mean the regular season's not over.  And 2001 was a close game.  And LSU was a good team even though we were heavily favored. 

Tonight is probably a worse loss than '01 LSU. We were a 23-point favorite. To have been beaten at all would've been one of the biggest upsets in program history. To get beat in the style in which we did...I just don't know how you even put words to that. LSU '01 was a pretty good team -- except they were playing a 3rd string QB and 2nd string RB. It was an inexcusable loss.

And I think that's why the comparisons are being drawn. Both were inexcusable losses, given what was at stake. And, yes, the stakes were pretty damn close to the same in both games. Tonight wasn't for an SEC championship, but it was for a trip to the playoffs and the potential to play for a national championship. LSU '01 was for an appearance in the BCSNCG. Take away the SEC trophy, and the stakes are pretty similar.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: murfvol on November 20, 2022, 05:11:15 EST
Agree Creek. Both games would have allowed the Vols to advance toward a national title, but were thwarted by inferior competition.

It's not a perfect comparison, but there are similarities.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: VinnieVOL on November 20, 2022, 08:03:07 EST
I still don't fully agree on the 2001 comparison.   That felt like the end of something.

This is, one would hope, the beginning of something.   It's all been house money this year.   No one expected is to win like we've won.  A natty?  No one could've imagined we'd be in that conversation.   It was fun, and this is so disappointing... but 2001 was the collapse of something bigger than a single season. How can one say that about this year when this is only Heupels 2nd year?  He's just getting started.


Title: Re: Game Thread: South Carolina 2022
Post by: BanditVol on November 21, 2022, 12:13:32 EST
Tonight is probably a worse loss than '01 LSU. We were a 23-point favorite. To have been beaten at all would've been one of the biggest upsets in program history. To get beat in the style in which we did...I just don't know how you even put words to that. LSU '01 was a pretty good team -- except they were playing a 3rd string QB and 2nd string RB. It was an inexcusable loss.

And I think that's why the comparisons are being drawn. Both were inexcusable losses, given what was at stake. And, yes, the stakes were pretty damn close to the same in both games. Tonight wasn't for an SEC championship, but it was for a trip to the playoffs and the potential to play for a national championship. LSU '01 was for an appearance in the BCSNCG. Take away the SEC trophy, and the stakes are pretty similar.

Win in 2001 and we are guranteed a trip to the MNC.  Win this, we still have to beat vandy (very likely, but after last night  :doh:), but we were in no way guaranteed a playoff spot.  Likely maybe, but not a sure thing.

But we are not disagreeing.  This was a worst loss in light that USC is a bottom feeder and they flat out whipped our ass. I say as much above.

Stakes were not quite as high in this one.  Still high though.