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« on: November 16, 2015, 04:38:03 EST » |
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I have concerns though. I feel that our offense is simply not good if Dobbs isn't allowed to run the ball 10-15 times a game. That really opens things up for this offense and makes us tough to defend. What I have seen in the last 6 qtrs. (against USCe second half, and the whole N texas game) concerns me. Against really one of the worst defenses in the country we didn't EXECUTE. We had short fields and did not score. We threw picks. We got sacked on crucial downs. Against NORTH TEXAS.
This is a team we should have been able to do whatever we wanted at will. Other much worse teams have done so against them. Yet we basically struggled on offense. That's poor execution - not scheme.
The team needs to go back to the style of offense we played vs UGA, Oklahoma, even Bama, or we won't beat Mizzou. That is a tough defense. Vandy is a tough defense as well. Butch needs to finish this season off with 2 wins and get us to a good bowl.
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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2015, 04:46:58 EST » |
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I have concerns though. I feel that our offense is simply not good if Dobbs isn't allowed to run the ball 10-15 times a game. That really opens things up for this offense and makes us tough to defend. What I have seen in the last 6 qtrs. (against USCe second half, and the whole N texas game) concerns me. Against really one of the worst defenses in the country we didn't EXECUTE. We had short fields and did not score. We threw picks. We got sacked on crucial downs. Against NORTH TEXAS.
This is a team we should have been able to do whatever we wanted at will. Other much worse teams have done so against them. Yet we basically struggled on offense. That's poor execution - not scheme.
The team needs to go back to the style of offense we played vs UGA, Oklahoma, even Bama, or we won't beat Mizzou. That is a tough defense. Vandy is a tough defense as well. Butch needs to finish this season off with 2 wins and get us to a good bowl.
Agree. Execution was horrible, but Dobbs being hobbled was part of the reason also. Just hope he is better for Mizzou. Given the Shanahan-like way that Butch reports injuries, I have a hunch that he is using an excess of caution to throw Mizzou off balance. I guess we will see. |
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2015, 05:04:54 EST » |
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Agree. Execution was horrible, but Dobbs being hobbled was part of the reason also. Just hope he is better for Mizzou.
Given the Shanahan-like way that Butch reports injuries, I have a hunch that he is using an excess of caution to throw Mizzou off balance. I guess we will see.
he didn't look hobbled to me. One time he escaped, he was running fine. That still doesn't account for the OL not really doing that well, and his interception. |
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2015, 06:05:59 EST » |
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Line up our playmakers against North Texas's playmakers, and we should've been able to tell them the play call before each snap and still dominate.
If Dobbs isn't a threat to run, he shouldn't be in the game. He's ineffectual if he doesn't have that added dimension.
Lose either of the next two and Butch will be squarely on the hot seat headed into next season, IMO. Lose both and it's going to be a LONG off-season. Anyone who says that can't happen hasn't watched this team's execution the last two weeks.
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2015, 06:08:15 EST » |
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If Dobbs was that hobbled he wouldn't have played 2 1/2 quarters IMO.... Iowa put 62 on this bunch...Rice 38....Western KY 55...La. Tech 56.....and for gosh sakes, Portland State 66!!!
If Dobbs doesn't run this offense is below average....again, JMO
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2015, 06:11:35 EST » |
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I agree with you and it concerns me too. On the surface it may seem smart to limit hits on your QB against an inferior opponent, but every time we try to do this our offense is just awful.
Here's my question-- how many points do we score if Dormady plays the whole game, with the playbook open? At least 24. So why play Dobbs at all? If he doesn't run you may as well sideline him.
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2015, 06:19:24 EST » |
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If Dobbs was that hobbled he wouldn't have played 2 1/2 quarters IMO.... Iowa put 62 on this bunch...Rice 38....Western KY 55...La. Tech 56.....and for gosh sakes, Portland State 66!!!
If Dobbs doesn't run this offense is below average....again, JMO
Hobbled or not he was being protected. Something happened in the first half of the SC game and QB runs were stopped. IMO he sustained an injury, most likely relatively minor but he has been protected. If we come out Saturday the same way I would be pissed. |
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2015, 06:35:02 EST » |
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I agree with you and it concerns me too. On the surface it may seem smart to limit hits on your QB against an inferior opponent, but every time we try to do this our offense is just awful.
Here's my question-- how many points do we score if Dormady plays the whole game, with the playbook open? At least 24. So why play Dobbs at all? If he doesn't run you may as well sideline him.
Good point - and rest whatever is "hobbling" him |
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2015, 07:12:08 EST » |
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Agree on all points. He absolutely was limited, and likely was not "hobbled" except by the coaches. An excess of caution and/or misdirection to Mizzou is what I am banking on. We will see.
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Tnphil
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2015, 07:37:17 EST » |
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I read on another site this morning which I had forgot.....Last year Mizzou held us to 53 yards rushing and sacked Dobbs 6 times. Mizzou's defense is currently ranked 5th in the nation total defense.
Our offense better bring it's A game.
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2015, 09:49:30 EST » |
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same (i.e. elusiveness, speed and willingness to run through tackles) and that's why I said last week N Texas is one of the worst teams in the nation so start Dormandy and the reserve RBs and let them take the hits, rest the starters for the 2 games we will need them...if we needed to we could plug the starters in at any time...I don't understand why this wasn't the plan.  |
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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2015, 11:07:44 EST » |
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Vanilla, chocolate, or strawberry - any SEC offense should have been able to score more than 24 points - considerably more - on North Frickin' Texas State. They are one of the worst football teams in Division 1 - FBS or FCS. There's that attempt at putting lipstick on a pig that I was talking about earlier.
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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2015, 11:15:08 EST » |
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Vanilla, chocolate, or strawberry - any SEC offense should have been able to score more than 24 points - considerably more - on North Frickin' Texas State. They are one of the worst football teams in Division 1 - FBS or FCS. There's that attempt at putting lipstick on a pig that I was talking about earlier.
Most SEC 2nd team offenses should be able to put up 24 on that bunch. Again, Portland State scored 66.....I didn't know Portland State had a football team.  |
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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2015, 12:36:31 EST » |
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If we were playing and SEC team, even Vandy, we would probably have gotten beat. It still comes down to coaching. But I know how popular that idea is here.
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Volznut
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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2015, 04:32:50 EST » |
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Vanilla, chocolate, or strawberry - any SEC offense should have been able to score more than 24 points - considerably more - on North Frickin' Texas State. They are one of the worst football teams in Division 1 - FBS or FCS. There's that attempt at putting lipstick on a pig that I was talking about earlier.
Hell we could have been French Vanilla and still should have scored at least 45 |
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