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« on: January 30, 2024, 08:05:22 EST » |
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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2024, 08:26:25 EST » |
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If true...why the hell aren't we in the top 5 in recruiting!!!
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JeffCountyVolFan
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2024, 08:46:24 EST » |
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According to Hubbs, the NCAA has been on campus for 6 months interviewing athletes.
As a comparison, FSU recently negotiated and agreed to a set of sanctions with the NCAA relating to an NIL violation where an assistant coach provided a portal recruit with transportation to an off-campus meeting with an NIL representative (booster). The sanctions were: 2 years of probation, a 2 year show cause for the assistant coach (he was not relieved of his duties, as I understand it), 3 year disassociation from the booster, 1 year dissociation from the collective, $5k fine plus 1% of the football budget, 5% reduction in scholarships over the 2 year probation, reduction in official visits in 2023/24, reduction in recruiting communication.
I?m not suggesting that anything like this happened at Tennessee. This is only one case that was recently investigated and resolved. This NIL landscape is not without rules, most of which we have no knowledge. It seems that the NCAA has implemented rules to make certain that the universities and the collectives are separate entities with completely different agendas (even though everyone with a pulse knows that is not/was not ever true).
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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2024, 08:46:35 EST » |
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If true...why the hell aren't we in the top 5 in recruiting!!!
Pure, unadulterated BULLshizzle Nico committed BEFORE the ruling we agreed to Make no mistake, it is really only about Nico Could also be retaliation for our AG joining the suit against the NCAA as well Ford is still butthurt about Schiano |
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  All men dream: but not equally. Those who Dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds Wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the Dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they May act their dream with open eyes, to make it Possible. This I did. —T. E. Lawrence, The Seven Pillars of Wisdom _________________________________________________________________________________________________ "If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly." - David Hackworth "Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet" General James "Mad Dog" Mattis |
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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2024, 08:47:52 EST » |
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According to Hubbs, the NCAA has been on campus for 6 months interviewing athletes.
As a comparison, FSU recently negotiated and agreed to a set of sanctions with the NCAA relating to an NIL violation where an assistant coach provided a portal recruit with transportation to an off-campus meeting with an NIL representative (booster). The sanctions were: 2 years of probation, a 2 year show cause for the assistant coach (he was not relieved of his duties, as I understand it), 3 year disassociation from the booster, 1 year dissociation from the collective, $5k fine plus 1% of the football budget, 5% reduction in scholarships over the 2 year probation, reduction in official visits in 2023/24, reduction in recruiting communication.
I?m not suggesting that anything like this happened at Tennessee. This is only one case that was recently investigated and resolved. This NIL landscape is not without rules, most of which we have no knowledge. It seems that the NCAA has implemented rules to make certain that the universities and the collectives are separate entities with completely different agendas (even though everyone with a pulse knows that is not/was not ever true).
The NCAA keeps CHANGING the rules, AFTER the fact and then investigation OLD actions to the NEW rules - that is what the did with FSU and to the UNC receiver last year |
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All men dream: but not equally. Those who Dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds Wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the Dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they May act their dream with open eyes, to make it Possible. This I did. —T. E. Lawrence, The Seven Pillars of Wisdom _________________________________________________________________________________________________ "If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly." - David Hackworth "Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet" General James "Mad Dog" Mattis |
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JeffCountyVolFan
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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2024, 08:51:19 EST » |
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The NCAA keeps CHANGING the rules, AFTER the fact and then investigation OLD actions to the NEW rules - that is what the did with FSU and to the UNC receiver last year
No argument from me, because I don?t have that information. I do find it odd that FSU didn?t fight the issue, though. |
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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2024, 08:54:54 EST » |
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I'm telling you NIL and the transfer portal are the devil. Any time you get that much money and the talent that comes with it involved, you are going to get shady dealings. It's just human nature to try to get an advantage. When has UT ever been choirboys? As much as it's a given they "all" cheat, we have had our fair share of incidents. But being typical fans it is all good if we win and we try to gloss over the bad stuff. I would rather be a little shady and win than be holier than thou and lose.
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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2024, 08:59:22 EST » |
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You either know the rules and follow them or you know the rules and don't follow them. There is no excuse for not knowing the rules, even if they change them every week..lol. The compliance staff has one job. They should know the rules. That doesn't mean they can make the powers that be follow them.
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« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2024, 09:02:19 EST » |
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You either know the rules and follow them or you know the rules and don't follow them. There is no excuse for not knowing the rules, even if they change them every week..lol. The compliance staff has one job. They should know the rules. That doesn't mean they can make the powers that be follow them.
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All men dream: but not equally. Those who Dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds Wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the Dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they May act their dream with open eyes, to make it Possible. This I did. —T. E. Lawrence, The Seven Pillars of Wisdom _________________________________________________________________________________________________ "If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly." - David Hackworth "Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet" General James "Mad Dog" Mattis |
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« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2024, 09:11:57 EST » |
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Chancellor Plowman responds:    Me thinks she is a bit upset with the NCAA's lack of CLARITY and multiple rule changes in the NIL landscape "factually untrue" "Intellectually dishonest" |
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All men dream: but not equally. Those who Dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds Wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the Dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they May act their dream with open eyes, to make it Possible. This I did. —T. E. Lawrence, The Seven Pillars of Wisdom _________________________________________________________________________________________________ "If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly." - David Hackworth "Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet" General James "Mad Dog" Mattis |
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« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2024, 09:31:39 EST » |
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Chancellor Plowman responds: Me thinks she is a bit upset with the NCAA's lack of CLARITY and multiple rule changes in the NIL landscape "factually untrue" "Intellectually dishonest" Seems to be more than a bit. Good for her! |
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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2024, 09:48:58 EST » |
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Hopefully it can be explained away. This NIL crap is so new, it's bound to have growing pains. They just can't move goalposts regarding the rules.
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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2024, 09:57:02 EST » |
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said the board's (wilfull) moron So you must be one of the ones who preach the Vols have never cheated and never will. I'm sorry to break it to you...they do. They just aren't as good at getting by with it as the other guys. A slap on the wrist doesn't mean much. When they start giving out bowl bans is when it starts to suck. This will probably end up being a nothing burger. Does any school really know the NIL rules? That's the big problem. |
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JeffCountyVolFan
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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2024, 10:08:00 EST » |
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The New York Times is supposedly reporting that at least one of the issues involved Nico being flown from California to Knoxville by a booster (aboard a private plane).
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2024, 10:09:14 EST » |
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"The speed of our movements is amazing, even to me, and must be a constant source of surprise to the Germans.” G. Patton
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« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2024, 10:17:37 EST » |
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Donde said back off or we?ll See you in court You got your head up your ass, enforsing rules that did not, and do not exist Oh, and kiss my Big Orange Ass! |
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All men dream: but not equally. Those who Dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds Wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the Dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they May act their dream with open eyes, to make it Possible. This I did. —T. E. Lawrence, The Seven Pillars of Wisdom _________________________________________________________________________________________________ "If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly." - David Hackworth "Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet" General James "Mad Dog" Mattis |
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« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2024, 10:32:41 EST » |
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All men dream: but not equally. Those who Dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds Wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the Dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they May act their dream with open eyes, to make it Possible. This I did. —T. E. Lawrence, The Seven Pillars of Wisdom _________________________________________________________________________________________________ "If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly." - David Hackworth "Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet" General James "Mad Dog" Mattis |
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« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2024, 11:04:19 EST » |
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Donde said back off or we?ll
See you in court
You got your head up your ass, enforsing rules that did not, and do not exist
Oh, and kiss my Big Orange Ass!
My God?. I had forgotten what competency actually looks like?. |
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« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2024, 11:28:47 EST » |
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My God?. I had forgotten what competency actually looks like?.
she will be presenting something during the game Should get a nice ovation |
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All men dream: but not equally. Those who Dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds Wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the Dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they May act their dream with open eyes, to make it Possible. This I did. —T. E. Lawrence, The Seven Pillars of Wisdom _________________________________________________________________________________________________ "If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly." - David Hackworth "Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet" General James "Mad Dog" Mattis |
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« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2024, 12:14:45 EST » |
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Nice ovation for Donde!
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All men dream: but not equally. Those who Dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds Wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the Dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they May act their dream with open eyes, to make it Possible. This I did. —T. E. Lawrence, The Seven Pillars of Wisdom _________________________________________________________________________________________________ "If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly." - David Hackworth "Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet" General James "Mad Dog" Mattis |
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« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2024, 01:44:14 EST » |
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All men dream: but not equally. Those who Dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds Wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the Dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they May act their dream with open eyes, to make it Possible. This I did. —T. E. Lawrence, The Seven Pillars of Wisdom _________________________________________________________________________________________________ "If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly." - David Hackworth "Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet" General James "Mad Dog" Mattis |
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« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2024, 05:10:32 EST » |
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AP fleshes out the issue(s) https://x.com/wvltrick/status/1752523810467721452?s=20Since this broke AP has been as definiteve as he ever has been |
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All men dream: but not equally. Those who Dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds Wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the Dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they May act their dream with open eyes, to make it Possible. This I did. —T. E. Lawrence, The Seven Pillars of Wisdom _________________________________________________________________________________________________ "If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly." - David Hackworth "Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet" General James "Mad Dog" Mattis |
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« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2024, 05:22:37 EST » |
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So you must be one of the ones who preach the Vols have never cheated and never will. I'm sorry to break it to you...they do. They just aren't as good at getting by with it as the other guys. A slap on the wrist doesn't mean much. When they start giving out bowl bans is when it starts to suck. This will probably end up being a nothing burger. Does any school really know the NIL rules? That's the big problem.
Well clueless, since you are so knowledgeable about this, name one (1) action that Tennessee or Spre or a student athlete that has been a violation of published NCAA "guidance" when any actions or activites occured? I'll be waiting, with my MREs at hand |
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All men dream: but not equally. Those who Dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds Wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the Dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they May act their dream with open eyes, to make it Possible. This I did. —T. E. Lawrence, The Seven Pillars of Wisdom _________________________________________________________________________________________________ "If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly." - David Hackworth "Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet" General James "Mad Dog" Mattis |
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« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2024, 08:07:25 EST » |
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It seems that most of the National writers who aren?t partisan bomb-throwers with an axe to grind (ahem, Forde/Thamel) are lining up behind UT right now. Even opposing fans (at least the ones who can see past ?orange team bad?) seem to be with us. Because they know they could be next. |
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