Sadness as Ozzy has passed

[PirateVOL]

Last concert was July 5th, last song was Parinoid
Been a Ozzy and Black Sabbath fan since band camp before my 1st year at Powell
Seen Sabbath in concert (Nashville) and went to 3-4 Ozz Fests

Couldn't understand a word you said but loved your music!  RIP

Ozzy's set at Back to the Beginning on the 5th:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9mo5e8

Black Sabbath's set:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9mwug4

Mama, I'm coming home ...

[volsboy]

He was truly loved by the rock world. Glad I got to see him live in Omaha while stationed at Offutt. He was one of a kind. Underneath the crazy schtick offstage he was a good, decent man. Smart as heck too.

[PirateVOL]

He was truly loved by the rock world. Glad I got to see him live in Omaha while stationed at Offutt. He was one of a kind. Underneath the crazy schtick offstage he was a good, decent man. Smart as heck too.

I would suggest that Sharron was the brains behind the Prince of Darkness
Though why she stuck around after he tried to kill her brings doubt upon the above

[VinnieVOL]

Oh wow.  Saw all the highlights from the last concert. 

[BanditVol]

He was truly loved by the rock world. Glad I got to see him live in Omaha while stationed at Offutt. He was one of a kind. Underneath the crazy schtick offstage he was a good, decent man. Smart as heck too.

I would suggest that Sharron was the brains behind the Prince of Darkness
Though why she stuck around after he tried to kill her brings doubt upon the above

Yes tried to strangle her while high, drunk, or both at the same time.  Stated that "they told me I have to kill you".  Her response was to give him an ultimatum to clean up or she was gone, so he did the rehab thing, successfully by all accounts.

Unlike most on here, I never cared for Ozzie.  The whole "black sabbath" thing is not consistent with my faith, but beyond that, I did junior high in Indiana and it was chock full of useless stoners, as we called them, who wore blue jean jackets, had greasy long mullets and basically did nothing but smoke pot (and take speed and even heroin) and listen to ozzy and harass everyone else. DID. NOT. LIKE!  That "culture".

Having said that, I do appreciate that he probably wasn't an awful human being, and can acknowledge his huge influence on the rock scene.  Also, as I got older and actually listened to his lyrics they were not as dark as I used to think when I was a teen.

Still...he is a veritable poster child for a "get high and be a social parasite and never do anything productive with your life and also make other people miserable".  Or at least, that's what he always meant to me.   

[volsboy]

He was truly loved by the rock world. Glad I got to see him live in Omaha while stationed at Offutt. He was one of a kind. Underneath the crazy schtick offstage he was a good, decent man. Smart as heck too.

I would suggest that Sharron was the brains behind the Prince of Darkness
Though why she stuck around after he tried to kill her brings doubt upon the above

Yes tried to strangle her while high, drunk, or both at the same time.  Stated that "they told me I have to kill you".  Her response was to give him an ultimatum to clean up or she was gone, so he did the rehab thing, successfully by all accounts.

Unlike most on here, I never cared for Ozzie.  The whole "black sabbath" thing is not consistent with my faith, but beyond that, I did junior high in Indiana and it was chock full of useless stoners, as we called them, who wore blue jean jackets, had greasy long mullets and basically did nothing but smoke pot (and take speed and even heroin) and listen to ozzy and harass everyone else. DID. NOT. LIKE!  That "culture".

Having said that, I do appreciate that he probably wasn't an awful human being, and can acknowledge his huge influence on the rock scene.  Also, as I got older and actually listened to his lyrics they were not as dark as I used to think when I was a teen.

Still...he is a veritable poster child for a "get high and be a social parasite and never do anything productive with your life and also make other people miserable".  Or at least, that's what he always meant to me.   

Yeah he never did anything productive with his life... except have a net worth of 225 million. Which is actually lower than I thought it would be.

[Tnphil]

Ozzie was quite spiritual....He was a member of the Church of England...Had a church relationship and actually prayed before every concert later in his career. I never was a fan of that type music....But a lot of time these type folks put on acts to impress their fans. Alice Cooper was the son of a minister....very smart and a scratch golfer at one time. Gene Simmons has many charities and many has benefited children.

[PirateVOL]

He was truly loved by the rock world. Glad I got to see him live in Omaha while stationed at Offutt. He was one of a kind. Underneath the crazy schtick offstage he was a good, decent man. Smart as heck too.

I would suggest that Sharron was the brains behind the Prince of Darkness
Though why she stuck around after he tried to kill her brings doubt upon the above

Yes tried to strangle her while high, drunk, or both at the same time.  Stated that "they told me I have to kill you".  Her response was to give him an ultimatum to clean up or she was gone, so he did the rehab thing, successfully by all accounts.

Unlike most on here, I never cared for Ozzie.  The whole "black sabbath" thing is not consistent with my faith, but beyond that, I did junior high in Indiana and it was chock full of useless stoners, as we called them, who wore blue jean jackets, had greasy long mullets and basically did nothing but smoke pot (and take speed and even heroin) and listen to ozzy and harass everyone else. DID. NOT. LIKE!  That "culture".

Having said that, I do appreciate that he probably wasn't an awful human being, and can acknowledge his huge influence on the rock scene.  Also, as I got older and actually listened to his lyrics they were not as dark as I used to think when I was a teen.

Still...he is a veritable poster child for a "get high and be a social parasite and never do anything productive with your life and also make other people miserable".  Or at least, that's what he always meant to me.  

Almost ALL of Black Sabbath's lyrics were written by Geezer Butler (bass player).
Paranoid was written in less than 30 minutes (also one of, if not the shortest Sabbath songs)
They needed a song to fill a gap to complete the 2nd album, which became Paranoid, so Tony started riffing, then Ozzy started mouthing essentially incoherent sounds and Geezer wrote the lyrics, did a take and recorded it and it became a hit

[PirateVOL]

He was truly loved by the rock world. Glad I got to see him live in Omaha while stationed at Offutt. He was one of a kind. Underneath the crazy schtick offstage he was a good, decent man. Smart as heck too.

I would suggest that Sharron was the brains behind the Prince of Darkness
Though why she stuck around after he tried to kill her brings doubt upon the above

Yes tried to strangle her while high, drunk, or both at the same time.  Stated that "they told me I have to kill you".  Her response was to give him an ultimatum to clean up or she was gone, so he did the rehab thing, successfully by all accounts.

Unlike most on here, I never cared for Ozzie.  The whole "black sabbath" thing is not consistent with my faith, but beyond that, I did junior high in Indiana and it was chock full of useless stoners, as we called them, who wore blue jean jackets, had greasy long mullets and basically did nothing but smoke pot (and take speed and even heroin) and listen to ozzy and harass everyone else. DID. NOT. LIKE!  That "culture".

Having said that, I do appreciate that he probably wasn't an awful human being, and can acknowledge his huge influence on the rock scene.  Also, as I got older and actually listened to his lyrics they were not as dark as I used to think when I was a teen.

Still...he is a veritable poster child for a "get high and be a social parasite and never do anything productive with your life and also make other people miserable".  Or at least, that's what he always meant to me.   

FWIW, my favorit Black Sabbath songs:
Supernaut (Tony's riffs are penonnimal and last verse is "I have seen the future and I've left it behind"
2A Paranoid
2B War Pigs
4. N.I.B.
5. Fairies wear boots
6. Iron Man
7. Electric Funeral
8. Children of the grave
9. Tomorrow's Dream
10. Snowblind

[VinnieVOL]

"Mama, I'm coming home" from the very last show def. gave me chills.

"Shot in the dark" and "Over the mountain" were a couple of Ozzy tunes I seemed to always turn up when on.  The newer song "Under the graveyard" is super heavy and kinda cool.  I've never really read into all the lyrics, I'm sure the message of that one is kinda dark, not really my thing but...

Reading stories from the rock n roll memoirs, he was pretty much a lunatic and did things that shocked even the hardest rockers.   

[BanditVol]

Ozzie was quite spiritual....He was a member of the Church of England...Had a church relationship and actually prayed before every concert later in his career. I never was a fan of that type music....But a lot of time these type folks put on acts to impress their fans. Alice Cooper was the son of a minister....very smart and a scratch golfer at one time. Gene Simmons has many charities and many has benefited children.

So he claimed later in life.  Such talk very inconsistent with his behavior and public statements earlier in his life, and particularly of some of his....you know...BLACK SABBATH bandmates.  Reeks of an image clean up by a PR specialist which is very common in the music industry (for example, Stevie Nicks claiming she never pretended to be a witch in spite of releasing an album called "Belladonna" which is "witch" in Italian  ).

I chose to hope he was sincere and in a better place, while reserving some skepticism.   

[BanditVol]

He was truly loved by the rock world. Glad I got to see him live in Omaha while stationed at Offutt. He was one of a kind. Underneath the crazy schtick offstage he was a good, decent man. Smart as heck too.

I would suggest that Sharron was the brains behind the Prince of Darkness
Though why she stuck around after he tried to kill her brings doubt upon the above

Yes tried to strangle her while high, drunk, or both at the same time.  Stated that "they told me I have to kill you".  Her response was to give him an ultimatum to clean up or she was gone, so he did the rehab thing, successfully by all accounts.

Unlike most on here, I never cared for Ozzie.  The whole "black sabbath" thing is not consistent with my faith, but beyond that, I did junior high in Indiana and it was chock full of useless stoners, as we called them, who wore blue jean jackets, had greasy long mullets and basically did nothing but smoke pot (and take speed and even heroin) and listen to ozzy and harass everyone else. DID. NOT. LIKE!  That "culture".

Having said that, I do appreciate that he probably wasn't an awful human being, and can acknowledge his huge influence on the rock scene.  Also, as I got older and actually listened to his lyrics they were not as dark as I used to think when I was a teen.

Still...he is a veritable poster child for a "get high and be a social parasite and never do anything productive with your life and also make other people miserable".  Or at least, that's what he always meant to me.   

Yeah he never did anything productive with his life... except have a net worth of 225 million. Which is actually lower than I thought it would be.

Never said he didn't make money.  By doing what? Encouraging and endorsing the type of lifestyle for others as I describe above, I had a very low opinion of his fans back in the day. Trust me, they were NOT on a path to productivity.   

As for whether ANYTHING in the entertainment industry or sports even, is "productive", if EVERYONE quit their jobs and went into the music industry, we would all starve to death, be homeless, lack modern transportation, and other unfortunate things.  Humanity cannot survive on mere entertainment!

The counter that you hear is that entertainment makes people feel good and then they can be more productive and happier, so I get that some entertainment is okay.

But entertainers and professional athletes, anyone doing mere entertainment, is literally what sociology calls a social parasite who offers nothing tangible whatsover to society.  But hey, that doesn't prevent some of them from acting like gods on earth, or having an ego the size of the galaxy!

[10EC]

But entertainers and professional athletes, anyone doing mere entertainment, is literally what sociology calls a social parasite who offers nothing tangible whatsover to society.  But hey, that doesn't prevent some of them from acting like gods on earth, or having an ego the size of the galaxy!
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And you like the Vols why exactly???

[Tnphil]

 

[Tnphil]

I had a very good friend of mine that had a son who was brilliant. He had gotten a full academic scholarship to Mississippi State. He decided after high school he would take a year off before he started school and follow The Grateful Dead around the country....he was a groupie/deadhead or whatever they call it. He'd go from concert to concert....he would campout at night. One night he was camping out under the stars in Arizona after a concert and he had his throat cut from ear to ear....dead. Till this day the murder was never solved. This was back in the 80's and what a waste of a brilliant mind over following a stupid ass band around the country.

[VinnieVOL]

I had a very good friend of mine that had a son who was brilliant. He had gotten a full academic scholarship to Mississippi State. He decided after high school he would take a year off before he started school and follow The Grateful Dead around the country....he was a groupie/deadhead or whatever they call it. He'd go from concert to concert....he would campout at night. One night he was camping out under the stars in Arizona after a concert and he had his throat cut from ear to ear....dead. Till this day the murder was never solved. This was back in the 80's and what a waste of a brilliant mind over following a stupid ass band around the country.

Yeesh, that's awful.   

[BanditVol]

I had a very good friend of mine that had a son who was brilliant. He had gotten a full academic scholarship to Mississippi State. He decided after high school he would take a year off before he started school and follow The Grateful Dead around the country....he was a groupie/deadhead or whatever they call it. He'd go from concert to concert....he would campout at night. One night he was camping out under the stars in Arizona after a concert and he had his throat cut from ear to ear....dead. Till this day the murder was never solved. This was back in the 80's and what a waste of a brilliant mind over following a stupid ass band around the country.

Ah man, sorry to hear about that.  Whenever mere human beings do things, we tend to screw them up.  I read a book about the so called "Western Woodstock" that the Rolling Stones organized at Altamont in December 1969, where they rather stupidly hired the Hells Angels for security, and a guy rushed the stage brandishing a pistol and the Hells Angels beat him to death, and there was a huge riot, people were trampled.  Four deaths total, but also multiple serious injuries  in the ensuing riot.  An attendee of the concert related the following story.  He had bought into the whole hippie "make love not war, let's all be brothers" hype, and to try and buy into it, he offered the guy next to him at the concert a sandwich.  Unfortunately, the guy was on a bad acid trip, as were quite a few attendees (some not very pure acid was circulating through the whole crowd, basically, which was a major contributor to the riot), and the guy knocked the sandwich out of his hand, cursed him out, and nearly beat the shizzle out of him, just because he tried to be nice! This is one anecdote, there were others, but the gist of the point the author was trying to make is that the hippies had a grand vision and/or justification for what they were doing, but in the end they basically were as imperfect and selfish as any other human beings and (in a lot of cases) they just wanted to avoid the draft and get high and get laid without taking responsibility for anything, and Altamont was a symbol of that, right at the end of the 60s.  It was a great read.

Anyway, humans often think they can better things, but fail miserably, and it requires a higher power to set things right. IMHO.  

[Tnphil]

I had a very good friend of mine that had a son who was brilliant. He had gotten a full academic scholarship to Mississippi State. He decided after high school he would take a year off before he started school and follow The Grateful Dead around the country....he was a groupie/deadhead or whatever they call it. He'd go from concert to concert....he would campout at night. One night he was camping out under the stars in Arizona after a concert and he had his throat cut from ear to ear....dead. Till this day the murder was never solved. This was back in the 80's and what a waste of a brilliant mind over following a stupid ass band around the country.

Ah man, sorry to hear about that.  Whenever mere human beings do things, we tend to screw them up.  I read a book about the so called "Western Woodstock" that the Rolling Stones organized at Altamont in December 1969, where they rather stupidly hired the Hells Angels for security, and a guy rushed the stage brandishing a pistol and the Hells Angels beat him to death, and there was a huge riot, people were trampled.  Four deaths total, but also multiple serious injuries  in the ensuing riot.  An attendee of the concert related the following story.  He had bought into the whole hippie "make love not war, let's all be brothers" hype, and to try and buy into it, he offered the guy next to him at the concert a sandwich.  Unfortunately, the guy was on a bad acid trip, as were quite a few attendees (some not very pure acid was circulating through the whole crowd, basically, which was a major contributor to the riot), and the guy knocked the sandwich out of his hand, cursed him out, and nearly beat the shizzle out of him, just because he tried to be nice! This is one anecdote, there were others, but the gist of the point the author was trying to make is that the hippies had a grand vision and/or justification for what they were doing, but in the end they basically were as imperfect and selfish as any other human beings and (in a lot of cases) they just wanted to avoid the draft and get high and get laid without taking responsibility for anything, and Altamont was a symbol of that, right at the end of the 60s.  It was a great read.

Anyway, humans often think they can better things, but fail miserably, and it requires a higher power to set things right. IMHO.  

A lot of kids that came from that generation and then kids from them aren't worth skim piss in the workforce either.