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Author Topic: Arnett telling Joe Schad that UT won't release him to Michigan or MSU  (Read 14392 times)
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« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2011, 02:21:31 EST »

Guys, we have to hold everyone to the same set of rules and standards or it'll be mass anarchy!! Well, except Janzen Jackson, who gets 3 chances when everybody else would only get one!

EXACTLY.  The JJ situation says it all.  
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« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2011, 02:43:36 EST »

Guys, we have to hold everyone to the same set of rules and standards or it'll be mass anarchy!! Well, except Janzen Jackson, who gets 3 chances when everybody else would only get one!

That stuff about precedent is BS. Every situation is different. If it's about Arnett just wanting out and not about his dad, don't release him at all. Stop playing the BS childish conditional release games in a battle you cannot win in the court of public opinion.

But hey... We have to find a way to take up for everything these days I guess.

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Also, we are taking a beating PR wise and for what?  I don't see an upside to this, Arnett is gone regardless, so at the end of the day, all we get out of this is some bad publicity.
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« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2011, 04:33:36 EST »

What I don't understand is why specifically he wants UM and MSU? If its truly about hits dad, why not just go to the nearest available school? If what some of the things that I'm hearing about CCB are true, then there is a lot more out there than we know at the present time. Is it more about Baggett leaving and being homesick? If it true that MSU has contacted him already, against what the NCI says, then there are bigger problems. I agree that it doesn't look good on the surface, but when it all comes out we will have the big picture.

Lots have looked over that CDD did in fact grant a release, but just not to UM or MSU. He didn't even have to grant a release period until Arnett's first year was completed. Remember Bobby Bowden didn't release Brandon Warren to any school in the similar situation.
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« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2011, 04:34:42 EST »

Talk about TOUCHY.  I was just suggesting that folks take a deep breath first.  But before I start PREACHING again....



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« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2011, 05:58:04 EST »

We are not really denying him the opportunity to transfer, just to go to MSU or Michigan.  I am not sure why Dooley won't let anyone have a release to someone "we are recruiting against".  So what if we recruit against them?  Heck, letting them have Arnett may even mean they back off on a recruit this year.

The policy doesn't really make sense to me, but I also agree that if it means that much to Arnett he can get a loan.  At least MSU and Michigan are in-state tuition.
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« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2011, 09:30:17 EST »

School policy doesn't matter. Consequences for Arnett's decision do not matter. His true intent doesn't matter.

What matters is that Tennessee will be slaughtered over this in the court of public opinion. If we were Alabama or LSU, maybe we could say "screw what everyone else thinks!!" Obviously we're not at that point right now.

Besides, there is such a thing as doing the right thing. Because maybe, just maybe, Arnett is telling the truth. Maybe he really does want to be closer to his very sick father — who probably won't live many more years — instead of being in school thousands of miles away and getting to see him only a few times each year. Are we really going to deny him that opportunity because it's our "policy"? Really?

You don't open yourself up to umpteen transfers in Dooley's situation. You think maybe he wants to discourage transferring in his situation?
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« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2011, 09:35:52 EST »

You don't open yourself up to umpteen transfers in Dooley's situation. You think maybe he wants to discourage transferring in his situation?

If we have "umpteen" people that want to transfer, we are in even more trouble than I thought.  NCAA requires you to sit out a year if you transfer, that deters about 99% of players that consider leaving.  Dickey even put restrictions on Nick Lamison when he transfered out.   This whole thing just makes him look petty.
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« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2011, 11:14:56 EST »

You don't open yourself up to umpteen transfers in Dooley's situation. You think maybe he wants to discourage transferring in his situation?

Who says you have to use a cookie cutter on each transfer request? I think that's a weak excuse.
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« Reply #33 on: January 01, 2012, 02:03:16 EST »

Who says you have to use a cookie cutter on each transfer request? I think that's a weak excuse.
On the other hand, he opens himself up by not having a common standard to use in transfer situations.  Bottom line IMO is he is in an unwinnable situation no matter how he handles transfers.
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« Reply #34 on: January 01, 2012, 08:26:01 EST »

Arnett has now added Notre Dame to his wish list. It's looking more and more like it has nothing to do with his dad if this is true.
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« Reply #35 on: January 01, 2012, 09:29:52 EST »

Arnett has now added Notre Dame to his wish list. It's looking more and more like it has nothing to do with his dad if this is true.

Notre Dame is only 88 miles farther from his home town than Western Michigan, a school that DD released him to.
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